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Post by cd on Mar 1, 2018 7:15:01 GMT -5
Zamigo Delma will be played by Irie Jingi, who was Jiro/Kikaider from the Kikaider REBOOT movie.  |
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Post by Sh Ranger on Mar 1, 2018 9:06:30 GMT -5
Zamigo Delma looks like a suspicious person.
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Post by purplecreator on Mar 1, 2018 10:27:16 GMT -5
Zamigo makes me think of Birdcage Vagabond.
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Post by crossranger on Mar 1, 2018 10:47:21 GMT -5
^ Sooo, if Zamigo Delma the cold never bothered him anyway, He has to let it go?  I'll show myself out...  |
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Post by Sh Ranger on Mar 1, 2018 14:24:12 GMT -5
If he's the guy who killed civilians by freezing them in ice, that means his heart is frozen cold as well. I hope the Lupinrangers seriously kick his a*s and avenge their loved ones that he took from them!
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Post by crossranger on Mar 1, 2018 16:50:58 GMT -5
The whole plot and the relationship between hero/villian, and I mean the Lupinrangers and this Frozen guy, it rings like the whole plot/relationship between Ryu/Kamen Rider Accel and Isuko/Weather Dopant, specially the villian killing the loved ones freezing and shattering them.
I'm glad there's another motivation for the Lupinrangers: they want their people back, meanwhile Ryu wanted justice for his family, catching the bad guy.
But I dunno. I suspect the Lupinrangers never gonna bring their loved ones back, probably this gonna end like Go-Busters, accepting their losses...
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Post by Warxull on Mar 2, 2018 1:38:38 GMT -5
I'll show myself out... My 1 1/2 year old niece finish watching Froze at the time. lol. |
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Post by Gokai Gaburincho on Mar 2, 2018 15:31:05 GMT -5
LvP episode 2: I thought this was another fantastic episode. It's definitely not perfect, but I'll get to that later. I should also mention that I do these posts one at a time, so while I'm behind, as of now, I haven't seen episode 3 yet. The Good: First off, I have to talk about the opening. To give a little background on my taste in sentai openings, how much I love any music from a sentai never correlates to how I feel about that sentai as a whole. I love Gokaiger, Go-Busters, and Kyoryuger, but I think the openings are just okay, and they're not ones I go back and regularly listen to, but on the other hand, I think Gaoranger is a boring sentai, but that opening is anti-boring, and it's one of my favorites. I love sentai music, especially openings, but going by sentai order (because I haven't watched every sentai in order), I haven't loved a sentai opening since Shinkenger's, until we got to Kyuranger, so that was a big deal to me, and the fact that I love the very next one is a big deal to me, too.
What's an even bigger deal to me is that in watching these past sentais, I've come across a lot of openings that I ended up loving, with Timeranger, Abaranger, Dekaranger, and Magiranger, just to name a few being one of my favorites, but none of the openings I've seen has even come close to topping Shinkenger, until now. I never thought this would ever happen. I love you Psychic Lover, I love you, Shinkenger opening, but this LvP opening is my new favorite. I already thought the song was great already, but I also love the visuals. The way the visuals were done are very different from how sentais are usually done, and honestly, they remind me of KR openings, which I assume was the point. There are 3 versions of the opening: The Lupinranger one, the Patranger one, and the combined version, and I would have been happy enough if I loved just one of them, but the fact that I love all 3 is yet another big deal for me. I love how big band Lupinranger's opening is, with the trumpets and the funky guitars, and I love Patranger's opening with the modern techno-y, dubstep-y sound, and the fact that we have another opening with a female singer, which apparently, Kr does all the time. I would love to see SS do it more often. As for the combined version, going by the fact that W is my favorite KR opening, and with songs like Yuuki Bakuretsu, Go-On Wings' theme, Ra-Tora-Tah's theme, and PutoTyra's theme, I guess I'm just a sucker for duets.
As for other things I loved about the episode. I loved that we got a little more backstory on the Lupinrangers. I guess, more accurately, I like the backstory we got for the Lupinrangers. I thought that scene was very well done. I thought it was heartbreaking, especially when you see the look on Touma's face. That's some great acting. The way that scene played, it made Kogure look very suspicious. We now know the name of that ice Gangler, Zamigo Delma, and know what his human form looks like, since I'm late on this, for not having internet these past few weeks. Despite now having this information, I still find Kogure suspicious. There's something up with this guy.
I also like the story with Kairi having more respect for Keiichiro and the Patrangers, and deciding to let them take out the Ganglers while they collect the Lupin Collection. I also like that this causes conflict with Touma. He is in desperate need of more characterization, and this could help.
I love the action in this episode. I love all the camera movements when the Lupinrangers fight. I also love the Patrangers henshin and roll call, and I liked the scene with the MegaBo. The Porderman lining up like that just to get taken down like that was silly, but it's silliness that worked for me. I love that we're getting the Patrangers' finisher in this episode, but the Lupinranger's megazord, and that we're switching it up in the next episode. I love the zord battle we got at the beginning with the Lupinrangers Vs the Patrangers. I love GoodStriker, and anytime we get sentient zords in general, like with Abaranger and Go-Onger. I love this megazord battle. The agile nature of LupinKaiser reminded me of GekiTouja and Kyoryujin. My only gripe with it is the finisher. I don't know what I would do instead, but I didn't care for the fact that it's just the giant morpher, but other than that, I thought the fight itself was great. The Bad: Everyone, me included, is expecting the next episode to focus on the Patrangers, and if I had one fear about the show after seeing this episode, it's that I hope that since the show put Lupinrangers first in the title, and focused on them first, that it doesn't fall into the trap of focusing more on them and sidelining the Patrangers. There's every bit a chance the next episode could put the focus on the Lupinrangers again, and while it could still be another brilliant episode, speaking as someone who is definitely wholeheartedly Team Lupinranger, that would be a huge miscalculation, and a gigantic missed opportunity. I hope the show isn't stupid enough to do this. I'm the guy that says that Kyuranger could have balanced all 12 rangers if they tried hard enough, and we have half the number of rangers this season, so there's no excuse. Man, I called it. I thought this episode was freaking great, but story-wise, this is my only big problem with the episode. It feels like this was done because they figured if every odd-numbered episode was a Lupinranger episode and every even-numbered episode was a Patranger episode, the show would be too formulaic, but this is freaking Super Sentai, the master of formulas. No one would have cried foul on this, because it would have showed deliberate attempt to focus on both teams. If the show was just called Lupinranger, I would have less of a problem with this. No one expects, say, the Gouraigers or the Go-On Wings to have equal or more screen time with their respective main teams, but the Patrangers' name is in the show, and the whole novelty of this Vs show was to pit one team against another, and focus on both of them, so the show should put in that effort. I know the "Damn you, thieves!" this is a trope of the gentlemen thieves archetype, since they do it all the time in Sly Cooper, and even in the Lupin the 3rd opening, and as funny as it was here (along with them being surprised when they fused), I hope the show doesn't make the mistake of the Patangers just being here just to be the butt of jokes. Even if they end up being funny, it would kinda be a shame. Another problem I had, which is a problem I have with the show as a whole, is the lack of an ending theme. I'm just gonna stick a pin in this, so that I don't harp on it in every episode, and I'm not gonna mention it again until my finale post with my season overview. Meh. I Would prefer that the efforts focus more in plot and characterization. An ending song doesn't gonna add something substantial to the series. It's like how you said it, tradition. The times are changing. If people accepted the Super seasons for Power Rangers, to keep watching new episodes, I think people gonna accept not having ending, to have more sponsors for the show. Ya I don't really see the need for end themes myself. We really just need intro for a show. Heck we should be happy shows have theme songs any more. As for the past decade most programs have been leaning away from themes and just doing a title card and that it. I tend to just collect the full OP for Sentai because I end up imagining the Rangers dancing during the EDs and I don't like that. But some EDs I do like. I didn't have internet these last 2 weeks, so I couldn't reply to these when they were posted, but I don't agree with any of you. Plot and characterization have nothing to do with music. Timeranger had a good story and still had a great ending theme, so to me, that's not an excuse. You're right that ending themes don't add anything substantial to the show, but neither does the openings. They're just fun, and I like them, and like you said...that I said...it's tradition. Those are all the reasons I need to be disappointed. I also don't get the comparison to the Super Seasons. There's not a single PR fan, even the people who like these Neo-Saban seasons (which, for the record, I don't like any of them), who likes the fact that these adaptations are spread over 2 years. We only deal with it because there's literally nothing we can do about it, not because we accept it, and it doesn't mean we have to like it, and that's how I feel about LvP not having an ending theme. Admittedly, this problem for me is very subjective, because I love ending themes, and I love sentai music in general, to the point where I'm making a ton of playlists on my Youtube channel for them: www.youtube.com/channel/UCmpqZF7qG. I would take a bad one over none at all, and whoever made this decision, I hope they realize their mistake, and that they rectify this either later in the show, or for the next sentai. Preferably both. Final thoughts: Despite all that, I still thought this was a great episode. Just 2 episodes in, I think this is a return to form for SS. I wish we can just erase the last 4 years of disappointing sentais and have this show come right after Kyoryuger. Next episode: Because this episode focused so much on the Lupinrangers, I chalked it up to the show just wanting to spend more time setting up the Lupinrangers, but next episode is a... Touma focus episode? What? Like I said, he is in serious need of characterization, but can we get some focus on the Patrangers? Also, as for that last scene, it's obvious the the Patrangers didn't figure out who the Lupinrangers are. I know SS is trying to be different, but they don't have the balls to not stretch this reveal out as long as possible. The Lupinrangers work in a restaurant. The Patrangers are just coming in to eat. It's so obvious. I can't believe they tried to pull something like that, but then again, this is a kids show, so overall, I'm okay with it.
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Post by purplecreator on Mar 3, 2018 0:27:25 GMT -5
I have no clue what to call the grunts & VS Changer for my files.
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Post by Rheannan on Mar 3, 2018 6:56:44 GMT -5
Info from the scans: 'The Lupinrangers will finally discover the identity of the mysterious ice creature that killed their loved ones. His name is Zamigo Delma, and he is never bothered by the cold weather. He remains an active threat.' Awesome. So while all of the generals apparently have a human form, hopefully this one will use his. Also, I suppose the Patrangers will find out the identity of the Lupinrangers at some point, but hopefully it won't be just yet, but also not too far away either. The way that scene played, it made Kogure look very suspicious. We now know the name of that ice Gangler, Zamigo Delma, and know what his human form looks like, since I'm late on this, for not having internet these past few weeks. Despite now having this information, I still find Kogure suspicious. There's something up with this guy. I'm not sure that Kogure is suspicious, though he could be helping both sides. |
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Post by crossranger on Mar 3, 2018 12:16:17 GMT -5
LvP episode 2: I didn't have internet these last 2 weeks, so I couldn't reply to these when they were posted, but I don't agree with any of you. Plot and characterization have nothing to do with music. Timeranger had a good story and still had a great ending theme, so to me, that's not an excuse. You're right that ending themes don't add anything substantial to the show, but neither does the openings. They're just fun, and I like them, and like you said...that I said...it's tradition. Those are all the reasons I need to be disappointed. I also don't get the comparison to the Super Seasons. There's not a single PR fan, even the people who like these Neo-Saban seasons (which, for the record, I don't like any of them), who likes the fact that these adaptations are spread over 2 years. We only deal with it because there's literally nothing we can do about it, not because we accept it, and it doesn't mean we have to like it, and that's how I feel about LvP not having an ending theme. Admittedly, this problem for me is very subjective, because I love ending themes, and I love sentai music in general, to the point where I'm making a ton of playlists on my Youtube channel for them: www.youtube.com/channel/UCmpqZF7qG. I would take a bad one over none at all, and whoever made this decision, I hope they realize their mistake, and that they rectify this either later in the show, or for the next sentai. Preferably both. Ok. Probably I don't have a problem of not having an Ending theme, while I enjoying the series for plot and characterization. I don't find it like a big deal. My comparison with Super seasons in PR, it's just how this shows (Sentai, Kamen Rider and Power Rangers) have to adapt to keep airing new episodes, despise the falling ratings, and in some cases the toy lines not selling well. Power Rangers have to create Super seasons to have super modes in order to make a second toy Line for the same series, therefore cockpit-exclusive modes, Despise the apparently shortage of episodes per years, that could be mandatory for Nickeledeon. I believe a lot of people don't like it, but I don't find anybody making petitions or with torches and forks in the Saban's company making demands to have more episodes. SO I believe most people accept it. I think they accept this like the new reality. You want a new PR series? So it's gonna have 20 ep per year. Probably in the future gonna change. Dunno. The same for KR. There was a huge batch of episodes for ExAid without opening. This was to have more sponsors? Ok, I dig it. The story was enjoyable, so I don't like it, but it didn't bother me. (BTW, I don't like neither to have 20 episodes per year or the cockpit modes, but what can be the solution? Another network? Come on. It's Nickeledeon. ) |
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Post by Warxull on Mar 4, 2018 13:09:08 GMT -5
Zamigo makes me think of Birdcage Vagabond. He looks cool. |
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Post by jitterdoomer on Mar 4, 2018 14:21:31 GMT -5
So the next episode will be about Lupinrangers fighting against the Patrangers and the Lupins are targeting their HQ. I'm waiting to see that Samurai guy at the intro, was he part of Gangler or no one associated with those three people? My theory is that it was him who killed the friends of the Lupinrangers by an ice.
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Post by Gokai Gaburincho on Mar 5, 2018 9:30:32 GMT -5
LvP episode 3: While I don't think this episode is flawless like episode 1, this is definitely my favorite episode so far. The Good: There is so much to unpack here, and it's almost hard to figure out where to start. I love the fact that it's a Touma and Sakuya focus episode, which is an idea that Kyuranger could have used, to help balance all of those characters. I kept saying that Touma was in need of characterization, and boy did they give it to us. The "Serious Blue" archetype is usually the one that's there to keep the red ranger from being reckless, and they turned that on its head. I like seeing how desperate Touma is, and when they showed his backstory, it helped me connect with this character in a big way. I'm the type of person that usually judge these shows on emotion, and how they make me feel, and I try my best to articulate why they make me feel the way I feel. A lot of reviewers I see would go through an episode with a fine-toothed comb, and my mind simply doesn't work like that. That's why I always appreciate it when any show can make me emotional or tear up. The last episode to do it was episode 25 of Zyuohger, with Misao standing up to Leo. Despite me being meh on Zyuohger, and not liking Misao at all, I still thought that was a brilliant character episode for him, and that episode did make me tear up, and it's one of my favorite episodes of SS, and that's how I feel about this episode of LvP. I loved that whole backstory scene. I love the fact that it was Aya who taught him how to cook. That's a great detail, because I naturally assumed he always knew how to cook, like Spada. I love the fact that we actually see the proposal. I thought the scene with each of the Lupinrangers' loved ones getting killed was heartbreaking before, but this added another layer to it. I actually find Aya herself to be pretty likable, and I like the line, "Things that look pointless at first are great for expanding your options". I already liked all the Lupinrangers, but Touma was kinda the weak link, but this episode brought him up to Kairi and Umika's level, and I love them all equally. As for Sakuya, he's essentially the Hanto or Doc of the group. I loved his arc about needing to try his absolute best, because it reminded me of the exchange from Gokaiger, when Marvelous told Doc to "do what you can". Doc was a character that I always liked in the show, but I never really saw what Marvelous saw in him, and that episode solidified it to me. I like that we get the exchange "Mistakes made at work an be made up for at work. Let's see what you can do when you give it your all." here with Hilltop, who I forgot to mention in my last post that I was disappointed he wasn't in that episode, especially since I found this interview with that actor, and heard how important it was for him to be in a kids show. I really want to get more from this character. When this show is over, there's a chance that Kairi could make a list of favorite sentai reds. I love that all of the Lupinrangers are up for playing a little dirty, and I loved that they used the Patrangers as bait for a trap. I also loved all the comedy in this episode. In fact, there's not a single joke in this episode (or any of these 3 episodes, for that matter) that I didn't like. When I do these posts, I always try to watch the episodes twice (although Kyuranger had episodes that were so stupid I only watched them once), but with this episode, I watched it 4 times, because it was that good, and it took me until my 3rd watch to notice what Keiichiro meant when he said he thought Kairi looked familiar, because of when they met in the premiere. I thought the Lupinrangers' reaction to the 3 LupinReds was funny. I thought it was funny when they destroyed the monster's statue. "At least the feet are still there?" I liked the joke with Touma saying he could put laxatives in the Patrangers' food. I even like the joke of Sakuya having a crush on Umika. The comedy in this show is on point. I also loved the mecha battle, especially since we heard the mecha theme. I don't know if LupinKaiser or PatKaiser have their own mecha theme, or if they share one, but I'm assuming (and hoping) they have their own, although I'm okay either way. Honestly, I'm just glad we're still doing mecha themes, because after they skimped out on the ending theme (last time, I promise), I wasn't sure. From the little we hear of it, I really like it. I love PatKaiser, and I think I might like it more than LupinKaiser. I love that it skates to get around, and the maneuverability reminds me of DekarangerRobo. I feel like that was deliberate. Also, I actually like this finisher, so that's good. While it's simple, I like the idea of it utilizing its own weapons better than summoning a giant morpher. The Bad: The only main problem I had with this episode is when Kairi told Touma not to take the Patrangers' VS Changers because it will leave them at a disadvantage. He's right about that, but I felt like it conflicted with the idea from the first episode when Kairi didn't save Touma and Umika because even if there's one of them are left, the last one will fight for them. If there's supposed to be a difference, I don't think the show made that clear. Also, something else I forgot to mention in my last post is that I find Goche's theme jarringly hilarious. It sounds like someone trying to sing a sexy version of Wizard's henshin. Also, did anyone else notice that in just the last 10 years, 5 of those female villains (Metal Alice, Insarn, Kyuemon (if you want to count it), Naria, and Goche) are just there to grow the monster? I'm actually curious to hear Kaizoku Blue's thoughts on this. Also, we're only 3 episodes in, so it's not a big deal (yet), but I find the villains generic so far. This is the same writer of Zyuohger, so I hope Junko doesn't fall into that trap again. Final thoughts: This could make a list of favorite sentai episodes in general, and I don't remember the last time I could say that about a show this early on. This show is on fire. Next episode: It looks like next episode is gonna be a Tsukasa focus episode. I'm glad that we're focusing on a Patranger this time, and I'm assuming it's also gonna be part Umika focus, and I would love to get the same kind of backstory episode for her too, and hopefully Kairi after that.
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Post by Sh Ranger on Mar 5, 2018 10:58:29 GMT -5
^ Touma is a little different from the conventional serious guy like he takes his mission to obtain Lupin Collection very seriously and so far, Kairi had to pull him out of battle twice. It was the right decision to focus on Touma on the Lupin side since he was the least interesting to start with but now that I've seen his flaws and how he learned the moral of the week, I feel the connection between the team more and how the characters interact.
Yeah this is the kind of Balance (pun opportunity you missed) that Kyuranger could've had if the staff actually realized Lucky and Stinger weren't the only characters. This is why a larger team doesn't necessarily make a better story. I think 5 to 7 is the sweet spot range for number of rangers per series. Lupin VS Patren has a total of 6 rangers and an episode managed to focus on 2 of them, 1 from each Sentai, simultaneously with no problems. Sakuya is a great source of comedy for the Patrangers but he's also reliable when they need him the most.
Pato Kaizer's debut was cool and its theme was awesome like Zyuoh King's, but I prefer Lupin Kaizer's design with the dials, weapons and flight combat.
I really want to find out about Kairi's backstory since the last time he saw his bro, they were fighting which probably left a lot of regret after losing him. I'd like to know the situation and whatever he did that ticked off Kairi so much. It's not like Touma's girlfriend or Umika's friend, there was no hostility before the freeze happened. Maybe that's why Kairi is determined to get his bro back, he wants to revive their friendship as well.
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