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Post by purplecreator on Jul 13, 2019 8:52:02 GMT -5
I'm with xman! I found the fact that Sensei Watanabe & Lothor being twins took sibling rivalry to a whole other level! As in Fate Of The Planet Level! I called Mercer/Mesogog the Jekyll & Hyde of Power Rangers.
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Post by xman on Jul 13, 2019 9:33:30 GMT -5
I wouldn't going so far. Specially the tendency of japanese screenwriters to pull off a twist so late in a series, not just a Kamen Rider series, Toku, or in anime, but in anything. Until now, Mouri is the only guy can keep up a decent amount of good writing. The Ninninger writer just confirmed our hunchs: he is a hack. And Inoue.....Man, he was good. WAS. I dunno why people still make a cult on his writing, and try to justify more horrendous series like Kiva. Don't get me wrong, I'd like to defend more Inoue works: I'm the first defending Shougeki Gouraigan, even if the jokes are so bad, and I'm not talking I don't like japanese humor. Believe me, my favorite series is Gintama. But Shougeki Gouraigan is in places so bad with the jokes. And the plot is non-existent....Inoue had an near-perfect series (Agito), a promising series that deflated so hard, and make me scratch my head (Faiz), the second half of a series he didn't started, and he didn't understand half of the characters (Hibiki), a crime against humanity (Kiva). Jetman was perfect. Cutie Honey series was OK. Changerion was great, even after the experimental "ep 24-25 of Evangelion"-like final episode. Tekkōki Mikazuki is underrated. The movies are a different species.... As I said, Zi-O, with the whole flaws it have, it is fun to watch. Even if they bring back a more charismatic actor and character in Tsukasa/Decade, to save the series. I don't have a problem Zi-O "cannibalizing" plots from other series. It's an anniversary series. Or rather, an "anniversary series" in name only. Because, compared to Gokaiger, Kamen Rider #1 (2016), Heisei Generation: Legend Riders vs Dr. Pac-Man and the two-part Kamen Rider OOO 1000th episode arc and Movie War Megamax and in secret, Lupinranger vs Patoranger....this series feels like it's one of those mediocre shows that at best can only mildly entertain you for a brief moment, but at the same time, it can leave you angry and disappointed the more you try to think about it. Kind of like the Dark Knight Rises or Game of Thrones (season eight), or any other show that is like that. So yeah, maybe Toei should've just fired the guy who was the head writer of Ninninger and have Mouri-san be the head-writer and show-runner of Zi-O instead. |
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Post by crossranger on Jul 13, 2019 10:15:25 GMT -5
^
Oh, the Kamen Rider 1 movie. Again, it's its own beast. First, I like the return of a cool Showa Rider: even if in Western Takeshi Hongo is not the most revered Rider, and his series is not the best in Showa, he encompases more the spirit of anything Rider in the Showa era, even if his series could be considered boring and "not aged well". It was the first. Trailblazer and experimentation. I consider it OKish. V3 is a better series in that regards, being Black the evolution of a "episodic format" and fullfilling the potential of what a Rider series can be. I would like the KR1 movie more, if they didn't try to shove Ghost and Specter in there, two of the worst Rider of the Neo Heisei era, and its stupid toys. And, oh God, the plot. Two faction of Shocker fighting each other, one faction being more stupid than the other. Also, Mayu Tachibana being annoying as hell. What's the point in her character? I commend them for trying to pull a "Old Man Logan" (even before the Logan movie was released) in Takeshi Hongo. If the plot could be more about Hongo and his relationship with Mayu, and bulking a little more of Mayu's layers, avoiding Ghost cast, and just one Shocker faction, it could be better.
I'm gonna be with you, the 1000th episode arc from OOO was better. It was cute to me. And the PacMan movie was OK. Lupat is a personal favorite. But man, KR1...I don't feel the anniversary at all. Just depressing.
About Inoue, I'll defend Rider Time: Ryuki every day. I love it. I'm very critical of the "chicken out" Ryuki (the series) did in the last five minutes of the last episode, and how "everything is reset" kinda finale. And everything ancillary, like specials, Episode Final movie, and manga and SIC hero saga, trying to add another finale to Ryuki, 'til the point of exasperation.
But, damn, even if people said "so bad' it's good", the miniseries encapsulates the spirit of the series: the Rider War, the stupid alliances, the even stupidier betrayals, a villian so boring that he didn't do anything until the finale, that he made look every Kamen Rider villian of the last 10 years like Shadow Moon.... The saving grace of Ryuki is Ohja. In the miniseries, Ohja again. Even if Inoue pulled again that stupid concept (I called it "concept, for me, he is not even a character) of Ryuga. Man, I never understand why people like so much Ryuga, the "dark version" of a hero (it was made better in Black). Or Ryuki in general. Some of the flaws in there are in recent Neo-Heisei series, and those series are treated worst that Ryuki....
For me, Rider Time Ryuki is like that thing in YouTube: "(insert anime name) in a nutshell". Kamen rider Ryuki in a nutshell. I certainly laughed like an idiot when they pulled the twist of Raia backstabbing his team of Riders, to promptly Gai literally stabbing the other dude in a barbecue, to then Raia and Gai having sex, to trying to kill each other later, because Ryuga. In the span of 10 minutes!!!! That was the best. I LOLed so hard trying to figure it out, saying to myself "what was the writer thinking?" Ahhh. So good.
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Post by Sh Ranger on Jul 13, 2019 15:50:27 GMT -5
^ Other than the infamous Tezuka/Jun scene, I enjoyed Rider Time Ryuki and I'm glad that Inoue was able to give the show the ending it deserved after Kobayashi ruined the finale. They're both competent writers but sometimes their insane ideas make me question their sobriety. I used to be critical of Kamen Rider 1, but now I think I was too harsh on its flaws. It was decent. 1000000x better than Super Movie War Genesis which sucks. 1's new suit looks so much cooler than his old one and modeling it after his iconic Sakurajima style was a great idea. Only the Typhoon looks weird to me, the original was more streamlined and practical. I agree that Tachibana Mayu was kind of a waste of time. She wasn't really important or memorable. Remove her from the plot and it's still a cool action movie with 1, Ghost and Specter fighting the latest incarnation of Shocker. I didn't think Tobei would have been old enough to have a teenage granddaughter. I guess they just wanted a legacy for Tobei since his actor is dead. What? Swartz is Tsukuyomi's brother? oh crackers.. look like it's a dysfunctional family or maybe estranged Dude, it was so obvious that Schwartz and Tsukuyomi were siblings since the big reveal in part two of the Kabuto-tribute arc. I mean, what the hell would you expect from these hack writers?! Now, Lothor and Sensei Watanabe revealed to be twin brothers in Ninja Storm. THAT'S A PLOT-TWIST!!!! Dr. Anton Mercer and Messogog being the same person in Dino Thunder. THAT IS A PLOT-TWIST!!! Even Heisei Generations Legend Riders vs. Dr. Pac-Man had a better plot-twist than this show does. Why?! Because the people who worked on those projects didn't insulted the intelligence of its' audience. Nor were they ever trying to down to kids like they're stupid. This is why I have made respect for writers such as Jackie Merchand, Riku Sanjou, Nobuhiro Mouri, John Tellegen, Douglas Sloan and Ann Austen. Because they are the kind of writers who actually respect their audience and do not try to insult their intelligence. I seriously doubt Sanjo Riku has any respect for the audience. He ruined a perfectly good death by reviving Utchy with damn power of music, reduced Yayoi to a plot device, treated Nobuharu like a punching bag, dishonored Torin and made Amy antagonize Yayoi out of spite. And that's just Kyoryuger. He doesn't care about the characters or the audience's feelings. I consider the final arc to be a terrible insult to my intelligence, like he thought I wouldn't notice how OOC Yayoi was in the finale, he forgot about her since he was too busy trying to make his ship canon. He's okay as a secondary writer when he focuses on comedy but as a head writer, he's a loose cannon. He learned a little with Drive since he remembered Chaser existed and allowed him to have a heroic sacrifice without ruining it like Utchy. I'd rather gamble on Inoue or Kobayashi than put any faith in this guy ever again. |
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Post by Mr. Blue on Jul 13, 2019 17:19:57 GMT -5
I'm almost caught up on Zi-O....just have to watch episode 31 to 40. Pretty good series.
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Post by purplecreator on Jul 13, 2019 19:01:16 GMT -5
I got a shitload of binge watching to do. The last episode I watched was the Wizard Tribute.
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Post by crossranger on Jul 13, 2019 19:47:07 GMT -5
Sh Ranger : I doubt the Ryuki's finale was the fault of Kobayashi. Sure, she wrote it, but I think she was pressured for the higher-ups. That was the rumor for years. I think I heard Kobayashi wanted the tragic ending, even with Ren dying from the wounds from the fight with Odin. But, oh well. Yeah, I like Rider Time: Ryuki didn't chicken out the ending, and went full "eveybody that died, stays dead". I consider it more spiritual (even if there is some gaps of logic) than the "reset button" finale, even if they muddled an Another Rider (Another Ryuki) against Shinji and Zi-O & Geiz, (a la Kamen Rider 1 with Ghost & Specter), ended fighting Odin at the end. The last scene with Rider Cards vanishing, and Shinji walking away was beautiful. Don't get me wrong: I like the Kamen Rider 1 movie. But it could be better. It's the movie I was expecting more, and therefore, the one that dissapointing me harder. I mean, I don't expect anything in summer Taisen movies, or Heisei Generations anymore, or regular movies. My last favorite movie in KR was W, then Fourze movie.
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Post by Sh Ranger on Jul 14, 2019 8:36:22 GMT -5
^ I owe her an apology then, since I wasn't familiar with the rumor. It sucks when executives get too involved. Episode Final The Movie was good but it didn't resolve the Rider War since Shinji, Ren and Shirou were still alive so it took 17 years to finally get some closure for the characters in Rider Time Ryuki. I also consider this to be the true ending.
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Post by xman on Jul 18, 2019 8:40:40 GMT -5
I'm almost caught up on Zi-O....just have to watch episode 31 to 40. Pretty good series. Not for me really. I am more of a fan of the individual tribute episode arcs dedicated to OOO, Gaim, Blade, Agito and Hibiki than I am of the entire series. At least those episodes have better writing and better pacing than unlike all the other episodes of the show that I have been writing. *sigh!* But in honesty, Zi-O the Movie, "Over Quartzer" better be amazing, because I am this point where I am getting sick and tired of facing disappointment with all these summer Kamen Rider movies year, after year, after year, after year, after year, after year, after year. The only Heisei-era Kamen Rider movies that didn't suck affter all these years to me are Faiz: Paradise Lost, Hibiki and the Seven Oni War, Wizard in Magic Land and Drive: Surprise Future. Fourze: "Minna de, Uchuu kitaaa!!!" And Ghost: 100 eycons are basically guilty pleasure movies to me. |
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Post by purplecreator on Jul 18, 2019 8:43:52 GMT -5
Quick Question: What does "Zi-O" come from?
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Post by Sh Ranger on Jul 18, 2019 9:12:13 GMT -5
^ Zi-O comes from Zikan and Oh, meaning Time King.
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Post by purplecreator on Jul 19, 2019 18:35:23 GMT -5
Ah! Okay. I'm trying to figure out a four character name for my adaptation and nothing is coming to me. Behold! The Another Rider Many Thought Would Never Happen! Another Decade:  |
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Post by Combusto82 on Jul 19, 2019 19:07:50 GMT -5
aka *cough*Schwartz*cough* seems he is the final villain
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Post by crossranger on Jul 21, 2019 1:18:50 GMT -5
^ This only proved me one of my craziest theories: they making Zi-O some-sort-of-sequel of Decade, and they using Zi-O to "fix" Decade plot points/holes. I'm surprised how many people now in Internet called Decade "an underrated series", after the return of Tsukasa, which I say "huh? Decade always gonna be an awful series". I love Tsukasa, the character. It's surprising how the phrase "a good character in a bad series" is proved in this. Decade is probably one of the best thing in Zi-O, and he only appeared in a handful of episodes. EDIT:i forgot. I wasn't expecting the return of the most unnecesary Kamen Rider.
Kamen Rider Aqua. That was a surprise. I never expected a Rider from a movie (A crossover movie!) to re emerge like this. Those are one note and done.
In theory, Aqua was the third Reiwa Rider? After "Look Papa, Neo- Fangires" Kiva and New Den-O? We have to expect New Den O too?
If we can expect this Movie RIders..... please, Toei, bring back Nadesico. I like her.
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Post by Sh Ranger on Jul 21, 2019 8:46:36 GMT -5
^ People thought it was impossible, but now Swartz has obtained the power of the Destroyer of Worlds.
It's difficult to predict how long Reiwa will last, considering Taisho only lasted 14 years. Zero One, Shinobi, New Kiva and Dark Drive are all (probably) Reiwa Riders. Quiz, Aqua and New Ghost have a chance. New Den-O would be way too far in the future.
Episode 45 is going to be awesome, the W tribute people NEVER expected.
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