Kamen Rider Zi-O Discussion Thread

Teeth and maybe something along the lines of Apollo Geist!

I wonder what kind of powers Another Zi-O II will have since he already had authentic Zi-O II's clairvoyance. What could have been if the Zi-O II Ride Watch was used to trigger the Dai Mazines in the original timeline. We know Swartz's plan somehow involves Sougo, Tsukuyomi and Hiryu, but to what end is a mystery.

I watched ep 37-38: pretty good. I think the whole thing bringing back the Twins Hopper, it's not bad. Of course, pretty sure they are the only actors capable to return, besides Kagami's actor. But contrary to Whathisname gaining the power of Hibiki in the tribute episodes, Kagami gaining the Kabuto Zecter, seems justice to me. He was, by far, the best character of the season. So, yeah. I like this tribute.
Ep 39-40: What I think it could be a schlock-fest because the Taros, Den-O, Zeronos, Deneb, an Imagin, another Den-O, and a plot about two people blaming themselves for the death of a girl, and besides all of that, the moment Zi-O gains his final form, the result was, balanced, opposite to Kiva's episodes. I'm shocked. Bravo. I like this writer Mouri. He was juggling with grenades. Even if Den-O had serious episodes, the constant apparition of Momotaros is synonym of hilarity. And Zeronos trying to be the antagonist, judging Sougo/Zi-O as the future overlord, feel right. Sougo trying to make two people ammends over the death of a third one worked well too. The plot of "girl with terminal illness" has been done so many times, and it's so cliché, but here it was pretty well used. It wasn't overtly dramatic, granted it's not "I want to eat your pancreas", but it worked. It shows Sougo is still not the monster people believes he will/would be.
I like Zi-O more than I should.

^ Sounds like you could use a vacation.


I saw it recently as well, after Cross-Z New World which was decent except for the unnecessary love interest.

Heisei Generations Forever was a much better movie and a climactic finale to the legacy of Heisei Riders. It was especially cool to see Satoh's cameo as Ryotarou since his last appearance 10 years ago. My only complaints were that it kind of screwed with continuity, especially with Shirakura overcomplicating everything as usual, and W was featured way more prominently in promotion than he was in the movie. Suda wanted to return but couldn't since his schedule was full. Nobody from Kuuga showed up either but at least it was important to the plot. With the upcoming summer movie serving as Drive's tribute arc, it feels like every rider got represented in some capacity except for W. The guy who gave Sougo the Ride Watch may have been a character from W but only barely. He was never an important or memorable character.


Bringing back loathsome characters isn't inherently a bad idea as it gives them a chance for redemption. Take Kiriya (the Whathisname you were referring to) for example, people hated his character in Hibiki and how he got to become an Oni instead of Shounen even though he was shown to be less qualified than Shounen. Despite this, the Hibiki arc was received quite positively since it showed how Kiriya changed in to better person.

This is what they should have done with Kageyama and Yaguruma, take them back to when they were worthy of The Bee Zecter, bring them back from the depths of "hell" that they were moping in for the second half of the show. Instead, the staff decided to kill Kageyama and do nothing with Yaguruma. He's been stagnant for the last 13 years.

Unlike Kiriya inheriting the title of Hibiki, Ka-GAH-mi becoming Kabuto was probably just a temporary alliance since that power was necessary to defeat Another Kabuto but it was nice to see Kabuto Zecter finally deeming him worthy. He'll always be Gatack though.

The Den-O arc was awesome! We get to see the Denliner Imagins, Deneb and Yuuto, the first appearance of Zeronos Vega Form (my favorite Zeronos form) in a movie/episode I enjoyed since 11 years ago and the exciting debut of Grand Zi-O. It's so cool how Grand Zi-O can summon Legend Riders from their past and I love the long and climactic jingle. Woz was so overjoyed, he couldn't even conceive a speech grand enough to celebrate it.

The emphasis on "DO-RA-I-BU!!!" is funny since Drive is loyal to Oma Zi-O until Sougo obtains his Ride Watch in the present. It reminds me of Grimm and Sanzo abandoning Alain until he earned their respect. Even though Grand Zi-O is stronger than Drive Type Speed, he's weak to Drive's power like Another Riders are weak to their own power. It reminds me of the Gamer Riders using Level 1 to beat the final boss and EX-Aid using Mighty Novel X to beat Genm Level 1000000000.

Don't forget that Sensei Kanoi & Lothor were siblings!

Dude, it was so obvious that Schwartz and Tsukuyomi were siblings since the big reveal in part two of the Kabuto-tribute arc. I mean, what the hell would you expect from these hack writers?! Now, Lothor and Sensei Watanabe revealed to be twin brothers in Ninja Storm. THAT'S A PLOT-TWIST!!!! Dr. Anton Mercer and Messogog being the same person in Dino Thunder. THAT IS A PLOT-TWIST!!! Even Heisei Generations Legend Riders vs. Dr. Pac-Man had a better plot-twist than this show does. Why?! Because the people who worked on those projects didn't insulted the intelligence of its' audience. Nor were they ever trying to down to kids like they're stupid. This is why I have made respect for writers such as Jackie Merchand, Riku Sanjou, Nobuhiro Mouri, John Tellegen, Douglas Sloan and Ann Austen. Because they are the kind of writers who actually respect their audience and do not try to insult their intelligence.