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Post by WarGreymon on Aug 29, 2018 22:48:20 GMT -5
Thrax doesn't make sense to me because of Zedd & Rita's redemption. Plus he's really ugly, and old-looking. Rita didn't look that old.
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Post by AlwaysARanger85 on Aug 30, 2018 10:41:12 GMT -5
I still don't see it being as bad as legendary battle. That whole thing was utterly terrible. Yes we had issues here to pacing and length all that could be fixed in a longer cut for all we know. Plus we did know tommy, wes, Koda, and Gemma was going to be more of the focus. Vs the others. But ya be nice if we had more but they still did more here I say then legendary did. But that is the issue with amount of time and bringing in more then 5 or 6 guys. As how is each character going to be used and some will always have more to do then others.
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Post by BradyMcKnight on Aug 30, 2018 11:14:40 GMT -5
Yeah I don't think it was AS bad as Legendary Battle. Tommy's fight scene was great, using the Falconzord was inspired and at least the battle gave the returnees some ADR lines.
But I just think it executed all the same flaws, like I've gone over multiple times already.
I will say I liked Koda's role tho. His lines were familiar and he was actually in character the whole time. I wish they were all like that. On the flip side I felt like Gemma was a completely different person. And even Wes. I feel like the writers forget that in Time Force Wes was goofy. Some episodes he was like a big kid, and that softness is what made Jen choose him. In every team up he acts way more like Alex, imo.
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Post by AlwaysARanger85 on Aug 30, 2018 11:30:18 GMT -5
Ya at this rate we are just running the same debate over. But still it was an enjoyable Anni and had lots of good to it. Vs legendary didnt. If we get longer cut released and if it fixes or not fixes things we wonder on that will give us more to debate on.
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Post by xman on Sept 1, 2018 14:29:56 GMT -5
Instead of asking yourself why so many fans hated "Once A Ranger" back in 2007. Maybe you should be asking yourself why so many people hated the Overdrive Rangers for quitting at the end of part one, despite the fact that they still have their civilian powers and they could still get back into the fight and help the veteran rangers fight the "evil alliance" led by Thrax?! Also, why is Thrax such an idiot in this episode and what is with the standard generic gravelly villain voice for the character?! I mean, he's supposed to be the son of Rita Repulsa and Lord Zedd, and you would think that the writers would actually make this guy an actual classy villain much like Messogog, Imperious, Vexacus, Zurgane, Deviot, Trakeena, Ecliptor, Darkonda, Zen-Aku and the Master Org?! But nope....all we got was a pre-existing Jared Leto's Joker from the live-action Suicide Squad movie mixed in with John Leguizamo's the Clown/Violator from the 1997 Spawn movie with a discount Christian Bale Batman voice.
See, I wouldn't mind the Overdrive Rangers quiting at the drop of the hat, if it was them losing to Kamdor and Miq at Stonehenge and then have the veteran rangers come in and have individual interactions with the Overdrive team actually expressing their experiences as Power Rangers and how they were in similar situations as the Overdrive team were. Maybe impart some real words of wisdom and actual character growth and development for the main cast and furthering the story a little bit more and giving the audience a better reason to actually care for these guys. But, NOOOOOOO!!!! The writers just had to thrown in some bullshit legend about a nameless warrior goddess and a magical golden sword named after Stan Lee's catchphrase and have them pulled the sword and thus "character-development". Sigh!
But, one thing that is really disappointing about "Once A Ranger" is that much like Operation Overdrive's entire TV season. It has some ideas that are really good, but they are being held back by so much incompetence and bad executions, and the Veteran Rangers are here just to showcase why they are the better team of Power Rangers than the Overdrive Rangers are, when it should be treating both teams as if they are equals. That's why I say "Dimensions in Danger" is a whole lot better than "Once A Ranger" as an anniversary team-up episode because 1) The villains are not idiots. 2) The ideas are well-balanced and executed properly. 3) It advanced the story for the current ranger cast, the Ninja Steel rangers and it actually gave me a reason why I should like those characters in later episodes. 4) The Ninja Steel rangers are now challenged by their predecessors and are so realizing that there is more to being a Power Rangers besides brute strength or all those fancy new toys they've been using to fight evil. 5) "Dimensions in Danger" actually treats both the Veteran Rangers and the Ninja Steel team as equals and not favorites unlike "Once A Ranger" that treats the Overdrive team like they're a bunch of unlikeable dickheads who just gave up at the drop a hat.
But, if there's one thing that is remotely positive that I have to say about "Once A Ranger" as an anniversary team-up episode, then than is just this one simple response....."Once A Ranger" is a hell of a lot better than watching all 20 episodes of Super Megaforce and its' god-awful finale. And I mean that too. Once A Ranger is still better than Power Rangers Super Megaforce and its' abysmal finale.
Overall, "Once A Ranger" much like the entire season of Power Rangers Operation Overdrive is summed up as this...."good ideas, decent fan-service, bad execution and really shoddy incompetence coming from the writers, producers and the former PR show-runner at the time, Bruce Kalish" Seriously, these guys should have done better than this and they have done better in the past. They're professionals at this and we, the fans, expected this product to be handled by the professionals.
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Post by superjeff on Sept 3, 2018 15:02:27 GMT -5
Once a Ranger isn't bad, it's quite fun actually. The only problem with it is that the OO Rangers and Retro Rangers never really interact until the final battle. Once the Retro rangers show up, they didn't really talk to the OO rangers to encourage them to stay. Although the retro rangers were great though when they interacted within the group. Xander trying to execute his plan xander but failed was hilarious.
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Post by xman on Sept 7, 2018 9:16:56 GMT -5
Once a Ranger isn't bad, it's quite fun actually. The only problem with it is that the OO Rangers and Retro Rangers never really interact until the final battle. Once the Retro rangers show up, they didn't really talk to the OO rangers to encourage them to stay. Although the retro rangers were great though when they interacted within the group. Xander trying to execute his plan xander but failed was hilarious. Uhm, isn't Xander supposed to have seen as a full-grown character, ever since his season ended?! Why was he suddenly reverting back to his original character when he approached the Chillers with his "Plan Xander" shtick?! The whole point of seeing older ranger characters returning for later crossovers is to see our favorite characters from the past seasons fully-matured, acting like real adults, and somewhat wise mentor-ish characters to the new team while treating them as equals. But seeing Xander revert back to his pre-developed character in this scene during part two of "Once A Ranger" and getting his ass kicked, that's called character-assaination, in my opinion. It's like Xander hasn't really learned anything right after Mystic Force ended its' run. |
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Post by superjeff on Sept 21, 2019 22:17:04 GMT -5
Once a Ranger isn't bad, it's quite fun actually. The only problem with it is that the OO Rangers and Retro Rangers never really interact until the final battle. Once the Retro rangers show up, they didn't really talk to the OO rangers to encourage them to stay. Although the retro rangers were great though when they interacted within the group. Xander trying to execute his plan xander but failed was hilarious. Uhm, isn't Xander supposed to have seen as a full-grown character, ever since his season ended?! Why was he suddenly reverting back to his original character when he approached the Chillers with his "Plan Xander" shtick?! The whole point of seeing older ranger characters returning for later crossovers is to see our favorite characters from the past seasons fully-matured, acting like real adults, and somewhat wise mentor-ish characters to the new team while treating them as equals. But seeing Xander revert back to his pre-developed character in this scene during part two of "Once A Ranger" and getting his ass kicked, that's called character-assaination, in my opinion. It's like Xander hasn't really learned anything right after Mystic Force ended its' run. I would argue just because one grows doesn't mean they still don't retain their character quirk. Look at Bulk, just because he stood up to Astronema in CTD doesn't mean he is a full blown mature hero. He is still goofy afterwards. So Xander while has matured, will still be quirky here and there. |
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Post by digificwriter on Sept 23, 2019 2:25:40 GMT -5
"Why is Once a Ranger so hated?"
Because Operation Overdrive gets unfairly maligned.
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Post by WarGreymon on Sept 23, 2019 5:01:48 GMT -5
Operation Overdrive. Plus, Thrax makes no sense whatsoever for several reasons. He was just there because everybody knows how cool Lord Zedd was.
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Post by zeorangerfivered85 on Sept 23, 2019 8:40:52 GMT -5
It's so weird being back after so long away!
I had never watched Operation Overdrive, one of many Disney seasons for me, and so I never understood the hate this season gets I just finished it last week and to be honest, I still don't see the problem. Were the teens obnoxious and self-absorbed? Sure, but so is Tony Stark and no one blinks an eye.
Were 4 enemy factions really needed? That was a bit much. Out of them all, the Fear cats seemed like the best one.
To each their own, but I really have no issue with this season. Flaws and all.
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Post by digificwriter on Sept 23, 2019 12:26:41 GMT -5
Compared to dreck like Dino Thunder (everybody was so enamored with Tommy's return that they didn't view the season with a critical eye and consequently overlooked the fact that it's an incoherent mess with regards to Tommy's characterization and that the traits they gave him don't actually make any sense whatsoever), S.P.D. (Jack being an incompetent ****hat who just abandons his team in their moment of need completely overshadows the interesting storyline elements that the season brings to the table, such as Rangers who actually turn evil of their own free will), and Lightspeed Rescue (the season starts out strong but drags in the middle and is way too heavily focused on Carter to the detriment of the other characters), Operation Overdrive is a freaking masterpiece, with Will being the only truly bad thing about the season, and it's extremely unfortunate that it doesn't - and probably never will - get the support and acclaim that it deserves.
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Post by PowerKamenSentai on Sept 23, 2019 15:28:02 GMT -5
Completely disagree about Jack because I'm pretty sure that's not how it happened, but that's another topic that I think we've been down before.
Overdrive isn't as garbage as some people say. It's got some good comedic moments. (Like Ronny and Mack having a moment with the Defender Vest, and Will basically telling them to shut up and blast it was a good joke.) but I wouldn't say it deserves praise. It does have it's good stuff, though. Once A Ranger isn't bad either, parts of it don't make sense and I'm not a fan of the rangers quitting just because they don't have powers, but it provided some awesome fight scenes and good character moments for the returning rangers. It's got some good stuff in there.
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Post by AlwaysARanger85 on Sept 23, 2019 17:48:16 GMT -5
For me really once a ranger wasn't overall bad returnees did well. It's how they handled the oo team being cut off. And they just gave up and went back to regular librs. They had unmorph powers still. So they could have done more.
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Post by BradyMcKnight on Sept 23, 2019 18:22:04 GMT -5
Except we know for a fact they couldn’t. They TRIED to fight Mig and Kamdor using just their civilian powers and got their asses handed to them. Brutally. I don’t get why everyone ignores this.
So to sum up:
a) The overdrive rangers were now completely useless in battle. This is a confirmed fact.
b) They didn’t just up and quit, they were dismissed by Sentinel Knight.
c) All they could possibly do now was like, polish the zords? Clean the teams weapons? That’s humiliating and undignified.
d) They had lucrative careers that they had put on pause to join the fight.
I honestly believe going back to their jobs was the only logical course of action.
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