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Post by mnikolic on Sept 2, 2018 18:04:38 GMT -5
I wouldn't say the Disney era flushed the continuity down the toilet. "Legacy of Power" clearly establishes that anything from MMPR to PRNS is in the same continuity (except the MMPR 1995 movie). S.P.D. did not clarify during what time on the DinoThunder side of things does the "Wormhole" team-up episode take place. Piggy clearly put Mystic Force and S.P.D. in the same dimension as well and "Once a Ranger" clearly put the first 15 seasons under one continuity roof. R.J. clearly implied that someone from the past created the morphers for the Jungle Fury team. So it's really the Neo-Saban era that messed with the continuity - first with the Samurai season since it was established that there were other generations of Samurai Rangers before the one we know and Jayden wasn't exactly clear who he meant when he said "We've been watching you" to the Megaforce team. But then again, Casey knew exactly who Emma and Jake were FROM THE START.
I'd rather say that the continuity has suffered some damages, but nothing major, since two of the seasons are established to be taking place in their own dimensions. We're fine.
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Post by purplecreator on Sept 2, 2018 19:21:13 GMT -5
Maybe Tommy married Hayley Ziktor. Considering how she was with him during Dino Thunder. Even how she talked about him.
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Post by Venusaur on Sept 2, 2018 19:59:38 GMT -5
I wouldn't say the Disney era flushed the continuity down the toilet. "Legacy of Power" clearly establishes that anything from MMPR to PRNS is in the same continuity (except the MMPR 1995 movie). S.P.D. did not clarify during what time on the DinoThunder side of things does the "Wormhole" team-up episode take place. Piggy clearly put Mystic Force and S.P.D. in the same dimension as well and "Once a Ranger" clearly put the first 15 seasons under one continuity roof. R.J. clearly implied that someone from the past created the morphers for the Jungle Fury team. So it's really the Neo-Saban era that messed with the continuity - first with the Samurai season since it was established that there were other generations of Samurai Rangers before the one we know and Jayden wasn't exactly clear who he meant when he said "We've been watching you" to the Megaforce team. But then again, Casey knew exactly who Emma and Jake were FROM THE START. I'd rather say that the continuity has suffered some damages, but nothing major, since two of the seasons are established to be taking place in their own dimensions. We're fine. [ Ninja Storm had the Rangers thinking Power Ranger were comic book characters. Which makes no sense Tommy’s video diary left out a lot of crucial things like Tanya and Karone and the entire universal invasion of 1998 that ended in Zordon’s demise The whole Rita is the Mystic Mother thing contradicts where the show left the character Once a Ranger is a damn joke on continuity. See Thrax and Alpha 6 If fans want to give the Saban Brands seasons crap on continuity they need to take a harder look at Disney and take off the nostalgia goggles
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Post by PowerKamenSentai on Sept 2, 2018 20:08:31 GMT -5
Maybe Tommy married Hayley Ziktor. Considering how she was with him during Dino Thunder. Even how she talked about him. Hayley was said to be a lesbian by (I think?) Jackie Marchand. They were gonna outright confirm it in Dino Thunder but Disney said no.
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Post by AlwaysARanger85 on Sept 3, 2018 8:04:01 GMT -5
Ya it's not really flushed down the drain. Sure samurai, megaforce, and spd to a degree fudge with things. But that is all up on producers and writers. And since we change both so often. It's hard to get that continously going story any more unlike zordon era. Plus x writer might not care or know of this past story.
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Post by mnikolic on Sept 3, 2018 12:31:00 GMT -5
Maybe Tommy married Hayley Ziktor. Considering how she was with him during Dino Thunder. Even how she talked about him. Hayley was said to be a lesbian by (I think?) Jackie Marchand. They were gonna outright confirm it in Dino Thunder but Disney said no. Seriously? That's interesting, but Disney was right not to allow that kind of confirmation. After all, Power Rangers was treated differently by Disney than it was by Saban Entertainment. However, I seriously doubt that even Saban himself would even allow an official lesbian character on the show. Even straight relationships didn't last for long in the post-MMPR/Zeo days. Good examples are Sean and Tanya, Ashely and Andros, Zhane and Karone, they even waited until the end of Lightspeed Rescue to make Angela na Joel a couple. I wouldn't have anything against it, but considering how Ranger relationships were treated even during the original Saban era, it's better that Disney said no.
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Post by AlwaysARanger85 on Sept 3, 2018 12:50:28 GMT -5
I never heard that rumor of haley. Plus come on nothing in show ever pointed she was a lesbian. Plus at the time on Disney they would have never done a out gay character. Hell Disney only just started doing that in andi mack and I believe it was also shown a lesbian couple in one of the other Disney tween shows before that which was in family show Charlie something..
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Post by PowerKamenSentai on Sept 3, 2018 15:23:46 GMT -5
To be fair, nothing in the show pointed that she was straight either, honestly. It's not like she had a romance plot at all.
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Post by xman on Sept 7, 2018 11:07:51 GMT -5
I never heard that rumor of haley. Plus come on nothing in show ever pointed she was a lesbian. Plus at the time on Disney they would have never done a out gay character. Hell Disney only just started doing that in andi mack and I believe it was also shown a lesbian couple in one of the other Disney tween shows before that which was in family show Charlie something.. The Disney Channel show that you were describing with the lesbian couple in that episode is called, "Good Luck, Charlie!" Seriously, how could you not remember the phrase, "Good luck"?! I wouldn't say the Disney era flushed the continuity down the toilet. "Legacy of Power" clearly establishes that anything from MMPR to PRNS is in the same continuity (except the MMPR 1995 movie). S.P.D. did not clarify during what time on the DinoThunder side of things does the "Wormhole" team-up episode take place. Piggy clearly put Mystic Force and S.P.D. in the same dimension as well and "Once a Ranger" clearly put the first 15 seasons under one continuity roof. R.J. clearly implied that someone from the past created the morphers for the Jungle Fury team. So it's really the Neo-Saban era that messed with the continuity - first with the Samurai season since it was established that there were other generations of Samurai Rangers before the one we know and Jayden wasn't exactly clear who he meant when he said "We've been watching you" to the Megaforce team. But then again, Casey knew exactly who Emma and Jake were FROM THE START. I'd rather say that the continuity has suffered some damages, but nothing major, since two of the seasons are established to be taking place in their own dimensions. We're fine. But, that makes no sense. How can Samurai and Megaforce exist in their own separate universes if we had seen Antonio and Gia walk into the third wormhole with Rocky, Tommy, Catherine, T.J., Wes, Trent and the Ninja Steel rangersheading back to their own homes at the end of "Dimensions in Danger"? Also, Shattered Grid did confirmed that Samurai and Super Samurai are a part of the main Power Rangers universe and are from a different time period. Same with Megaforce and Super Megaforce in the events of Shattered Grid.
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Post by mnikolic on Sept 7, 2018 13:15:09 GMT -5
I was just stating that Samurai poorly established the connection between its own timeline and the overall PR timeline in the main PR dimension. I wasn't saying that Samurai is in its own separate dimensions. Megaforce had a similar problem since it was a rushed and a crammed story and it didn't establish how much time has passed between the Samurai Rangers's final battle against Master Xandred and the Warstar aliens attack on Earth. But all of that doesn't mean that the two seasons are in their own dimensions. The Rangers from different Veteran teams clearly know each other and they all knew who the Megaforce Rangers were.
What I'm basically saying is: "Dimensions in Danger" DID ESTABLISH that the TV seasons and the Turbo movie, EXCEPT RPM and Dino Charge are set in the main PR dimension, but watching Samurai and Megaforce, I didn't exactly get that feeling. There are episodes and events in both seasons that contradict their placement within the main PR dimension, while other episodes and events don't. The recent anniversary episode just saved us from bombing our heads with a handful of pothole discussions by clearly establishing that Koda and Co. live in their own dimension. That is what I meant when I said "two of the seasons are established to be taking place in their own dimensions." - I was thinking of RPM and Dino Charge, not Samurai and Megaforce.
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Post by AlwaysARanger85 on Sept 7, 2018 13:47:20 GMT -5
Samurai was really no different then any post zordon Era show really. Mega force is the show that screwed things up. Ie the new powers and lazy excuse for them. And the half ass tributes. Then also its all about series story. Plus if x writers or producers want to make any big or small nods to past events, characters, or places. The reason we went to series to series change and cast is so we can branch things out and expand the world. And with that is no different they say your marvel and DC books. You have the big event or team books but does the solo books go into every thing the big books do no.
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Post by mnikolic on Sept 8, 2018 12:25:31 GMT -5
Agreed. The way they invited everyone and then how they uninvited cast members like a week later was basically the sign that either they screwed something up or they really couldn't license all the footage - as per JDF. They didn't even LET THE CAST AT LEAST TRY ON THE RANGER SUITS FROM DIFFERENT SEASONS. So any original footage involving any Ranger suits from PR or Sentai were worn by stunt actors and any footage involving any Ranger suits from any seasons was basically just Gokaiger footage.
They could have at least made a "Legacy of Power" type of episode for every individual season and then have tribute episodes without the cameos. They had Gokaiger footage. They had the suits. They could have easily made some kind of a combo thing. It would feel the gap by the unadapted Sentai seasons and it would have stretched out either the Gokaiger or original footage enough so it would meet the 40 episode mark. Plus we could have easily gotten the Basco character.
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Post by purplecreator on Sept 8, 2018 14:58:00 GMT -5
And they could have made that big battle last more than 120 seconds. That same battle from the movie lasted a lot longer than that!
One of my biggest problems with Super Megaforce was the monsters, story lines & other things they COULD have used and didn't.
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Post by AlwaysARanger85 on Sept 8, 2018 17:56:34 GMT -5
So true mega force had so much they could have used and didn't along with stuff they didn't need and kept. As for they didn't have suits that is bs right there. I recall seeing bts photos from mega force that showed costume department. They had the suits to all the adapted shows. So right there no reason we couldn't have had tribute episodes with or without cameos in there vs only doing 2 cameoes, and then going to animera, and rpm world.
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Post by purplecreator on Sept 8, 2018 18:35:58 GMT -5
The only episode I liked was the Jungle Fury Tribute. Though Troy was contradicting himself in his morphs. "We need to use our weapons" in Civilian Mode and then used hand-to-hand combat in various Ranger Modes. And looking like Derek Zoolander with botox all the while!
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