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Post by AlwaysARanger85 on Aug 30, 2018 10:35:48 GMT -5
I think he meant confirmed on show they are indeed married. Yes it's is like 99.9% that they are. Like I said I am sure this and other lingering issues can be solved if we do see a longer cut of the episode. As its likely things that got cut for time.
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Post by zarius on Aug 30, 2018 10:51:56 GMT -5
I think he meant confirmed on show they are indeed married You had that confirmed back in 1996 also.
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Post by BradyMcKnight on Aug 30, 2018 11:03:15 GMT -5
Sure, but I mean the fact that they are married right this second and JJ is her son.
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Post by zarius on Aug 30, 2018 11:08:43 GMT -5
Soul of the Dragon confirms JJ is their kid.
Catherine Sutherland confirmed it on Twitter.
The level of denial is getting ridiculous at this point. Just accept they're married
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Post by AlwaysARanger85 on Aug 30, 2018 11:27:52 GMT -5
Ya me personally I am going with they are indeed married. But it is always nice to have more visible proof. Again maybe we will have it some time soon.
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Post by BradyMcKnight on Aug 30, 2018 13:26:04 GMT -5
...I'm feel like I'm not the one in denial here. The cut of Dimensions in Danger that aired did not conclusively prove Kat is Tommy's wife and JJ's mother. Those are the facts. Claiming it did, now that's denial. I'm aware that was the intent, but intent does not equal canon.
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Post by darkranger237 on Aug 30, 2018 13:36:55 GMT -5
The only ones in denial are Tommy/Kimberly shippers.
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Post by Kendra Navarro on Aug 30, 2018 13:42:03 GMT -5
Back then the Command Center/Base was still there so sorry. Not true.
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Post by zarius on Aug 30, 2018 15:09:52 GMT -5
Back then the Command Center/Base was still there so sorry. Not true. Have you been blind to the fact that virtually everything retro has come back in the show? From powers to Zords? This isn't an argument or a question any longer. Command Centres can be rebuilt. Sorry fanboy, your 'ship is dead. Accept and move on.
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Post by PowerKamenSentai on Aug 30, 2018 15:11:47 GMT -5
...I'm feel like I'm not the one in denial here. The cut of Dimensions in Danger that aired did not conclusively prove Kat is Tommy's wife and JJ's mother. Those are the facts. Claiming it did, now that's denial. I'm aware that was the intent, but intent does not equal canon. If the fact that they walked into the portal holding hands and the fact that Tommy was clearly talking to his wife at the beginning isn't enough proof... pretty sure that's enough confirmation. It makes no sense that Tommy and Kat would be holding hands if they weren't together. That's not even taking into account the novel that's connected to the show that has Tommy and Kat married with JJ as their kid. Saying they aren't together is just kinda being difficult...
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Post by zarius on Aug 30, 2018 15:35:31 GMT -5
...I'm feel like I'm not the one in denial here. The cut of Dimensions in Danger that aired did not conclusively prove Kat is Tommy's wife and JJ's mother. Those are the facts. Claiming it did, now that's denial. I'm aware that was the intent, but intent does not equal canon. On-screen Canon, future history, and expanded material, is on my side, and you accuse me of denial in light of all of that? Dude, you're just stubborn at this point.
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Post by mnikolic on Aug 30, 2018 15:54:47 GMT -5
If the actress confirmed that JJ is Tommy's and Kat's son, than we all have to accept it. "A Season To Remember" is as cannon as it gets. As for Kat not wearing a wedding ring - maybe she took it off and hid it somewhere so if the rescue mission failed and RoboKat showed up pretending to be the real one and if the real Tommy would end up somewhere safe, he would easily know that something's wrong. When the clones are being created in the episode, they get the civilian clothes of the captured Rangers too and everything that they have on them, including jewlery. What the original does not wear, that thing can not be copied. So all Tommy would have to do is to look at her hand. I bet when they got home, Kat went to retrieve her wedding ring and put it back on. It's either that or the ring got damaged and they had it fixed after returning home.
As for the production reasons of the character NOT wearing the ring - it probably has to do either with the actress not wanting her real-life wedding ring to be featured on the show or she was told not to wear it for some reason. This is Power Rangers after all so I wouldn't worry about who wears what (or doesn't) and why.
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Post by BradyMcKnight on Aug 30, 2018 17:16:36 GMT -5
His phone call wasn't lovey-dovey or anything. He could have been calling Alpha for all we know. And even if it is Kat, she could be his girlfriend and his son is someone else's. That's how little information was truly provided.
I don't think comics are show canon, but even if they are then once issue #1 drops, then it will be officially canon. This episode simply did not establish that, and that is factual.
What the actors say is irrelevant. Karan Ashley once said she thought that after the show Aisha hooked up with Kimberly and they ran off together. Are we all going to accept this as fact now? (Although tbh, I like it lol)
Look, I'm not against this or anything, but the plain and simple FACT is this episode failed to confirm their marriage or JJ's mother.
Call me stubborn, but I think it's stubborn to argue against the cold hard facts.
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Post by PowerKamenSentai on Aug 30, 2018 17:33:47 GMT -5
His phone call wasn't lovey-dovey or anything. He could have been calling Alpha for all we know. Why would he be saying "I'll take JJ to school" and "See you tonight" to anybody but his wife? It was obvious that's who he was talking to. This is the problem... why would we assume anything like that? We know Kat and Tommy are together. We know Tommy was talking to somebody on the phone like somebody talking to his wife about his son. What reason do we have to assume that Kat isn't the mother outside of some people not liking the idea? We're not talking about the main comics, this is a graphic novel not connected to the comics, it just happens to be written by the same person who wrote the comics. But, it is connected to the show. And again, the episode did establish it, just not very obviously. There's a difference between an actor actually saying something is canon vs an actor making an obvious joke at a panel. Which... is exactly what it seems like you're doing from where I'm standing.
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Post by BradyMcKnight on Aug 30, 2018 17:45:15 GMT -5
But the facts are on my side tho, the rest is just speculation. Probably correct speculation, speculation with some support, but still speculation.
Look at it this way: Say someone proposed this theory:
"Tommy married a woman and had a son, then his wife died. Then in recent years he began dating Kat."
Using only the contents of Dimensions in Danger, disprove this theory.
I'll wait.
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