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Post by digificwriter on Oct 11, 2018 13:53:17 GMT -5
Still digit knowing what we know and how the show itself turn out. It was a terrible series same with megaforce. Yes we all have different liked and dislike seasons. But from top to bottom samurai and megaforce where really bad series. And it all stems from the bad calls jt made with the shows. Only if you care about that stuff and let it affect your judgment, which I don't.
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Post by iceranger32 on Oct 11, 2018 14:06:37 GMT -5
Still digit knowing what we know and how the show itself turn out. It was a terrible series same with megaforce. Yes we all have different liked and dislike seasons. But from top to bottom samurai and megaforce where really bad series. And it all stems from the bad calls jt made with the shows. No offense, but regardless of fans being able to catch the mistakes and goof ups the production team made in each season, doesn't mean much in terms of what seasons they feel were the best and which weren't. There are fans out there, me included that unlike the majority of the fans these days, would rather watch and enjoy the show as fans and not critics, criticizing every last second and every scene in each episode. I don't mean for this to sound like I am attacking those that do those things, but I am just stating that there are still fans out there that just watch and enjoy the shows and movies regardless of what critics point out. That's why no one should claim that a certain top season or top Ranger lists are official only true lists as there never going to be one as it different for every fan and every fans has their own opinions on that matter.
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Post by AlwaysARanger85 on Oct 11, 2018 14:42:28 GMT -5
Hey I have no issue with folks fav seasons and not favorite seasons. I said that above. Every one has a difference of opinions there. I was only pointing out all the problems both samurai and mega force had in production. Which all boils down to jt and his lack of creativity and un willing to make the shows better. And for me both those series where pretty bad overall.
Besides maybe an episode or two here and there. And certain characters like samurai green I liked. But even if you don't care about the behind the scenes stuff it does really affect the final product. And that makes for some bad calls what could have made those shows better.
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Post by iceranger32 on Oct 11, 2018 21:49:23 GMT -5
^Again, he did point out that he didn't care about that aspect of it. Just because a person knows and can see them issues doesn't mean anything to them as to how they rate a season.
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Post by xman on Oct 12, 2018 1:23:26 GMT -5
^Again, he did point out that he didn't care about that aspect of it. Just because a person knows and can see the issues doesn't mean anything to them as to how they rate a season. In other words, he doesn't care about flaws. He just has different tastes in shows as much as we do. Well, here's to the end of the Neo-Saban era and to the future of the Hasbro era of Power Rangers.
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Post by digificwriter on Oct 12, 2018 2:19:21 GMT -5
^ I recognize Samurai's flaws, but they're outbalanced by what I enjoyed about the season. I also have a different opinion on what the season's flaws are than a lot of other PR fans.
Jonathan Tzachor made some questionable decisions with Samurai, but we still got a season wherein the story and characters were strong enough - for me - to make it enjoyable.
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Post by AlwaysARanger85 on Oct 12, 2018 7:23:48 GMT -5
Hey I said again I don't mind if you like this or that season that I and others don't like. I was just clearly pointing out those seasons clearly had a lot of problems stemming from the production folks. Which caused those shows to be very bad products in the end due to the variety of issues be it from crappy actors, crappy writing, etc..... reasons we know happened and could see within the finished product.
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Post by digificwriter on Oct 12, 2018 9:11:02 GMT -5
^ You keep saying that you accept that I like Samurai, but then turn right around and repeat that it's objectively bad and question how I can like it when the things that make it bad are well-known.
There's a significant contradiction there.
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Post by iceranger32 on Oct 12, 2018 13:42:11 GMT -5
Hey I said again I don't mind if you like this or that season that I and others don't like. I was just clearly pointing out those seasons clearly had a lot of problems stemming from the production folks. Which caused those shows to be very bad products in the end due to the variety of issues be it from crappy actors, crappy writing, etc..... reasons we know happened and could see within the finished product. This conversation is just going around in circles. He and myself have stated over and over to you again as to why he thinks Samurai is a good season and even mention that he knows there are flaws and what not in it, but it still doesn't change is stance and opinions on it. But yet, you keep on looping back to what you said previously even though you accept his opinions. And plus, also understand just because those flaws and errors can easily be seen by fans shouldn't affect how fans rank the seasons and what not. Just because some seasons has more errors and flaws then others doesn't automatically mean that fans should rank it so low. It is best if everyone just moves on from this debate because no offense to you man, but you seem to just constantly repeat your previous posts causing this conversation and debate to loop back around in circles.
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Post by AlwaysARanger85 on Oct 12, 2018 16:30:01 GMT -5
OK then let's just drop this.
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