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Post by cd on Dec 22, 2018 19:42:31 GMT -5
Oh wow, Hideya Tawada (Kinji/Star Ninger) is Kamen Rider Shinobi:
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Post by crossranger on Dec 22, 2018 20:12:42 GMT -5
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Oh WOW. That's amazing. I like the actor. Probably one of the best things in Ninninger. Also, nice nod to a "ninja" past.
I love the suit design. The long scarf, the purple, the details in arms and legs, the helmet....There is not a lot of purple Riders, isn't? I remember liking Sasword during Kabuto.
I'm fond of every design od Zi-O. It's becoming slowly my favourite season. Even if this plot of "changing the history" doesn't make a lot of sense, I like it a lot. Toei really put some effort this time.
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Post by Sh Ranger on Dec 23, 2018 9:58:58 GMT -5
Oh wow, very appropriate for a ninja ranger to be the new ninja rider. Apparently, his year is 2022 like "NI sen NI jyu NI". Shinobi's suit also looks very cool!
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Post by cd on Dec 24, 2018 15:22:01 GMT -5
Another Kuuga Ultimate?  |
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Post by purplecreator on Dec 24, 2018 20:42:12 GMT -5
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Post by xman on Dec 27, 2018 22:46:16 GMT -5
I may not be interested in watch the 2019 episodes of Kamen Rider Zi-O, because I feel like this show is going to be shamefully rehashing tropes from Kamen Rider Ghost once they start introducing new riders next month.
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Post by Kaizoku Blue on Dec 28, 2018 6:00:53 GMT -5
Presumably you mean "shamelessly" and exactly what "tropes?" At least some episodes will still deal with the Another Riders (there's Another Shinobi, Quiz and presumably Kikai). We know that the major plot strands are Oma Zi-O, and an alternate future timeline that Kamen Rider Woz comes from. Time travel will still be involved and potentially more tributes to past Kamen Rider (I would be very surprised if there is no Drive episode.) There is no indication Sougo will keep dying. How would it be like Ghost?
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Post by xman on Dec 28, 2018 21:35:11 GMT -5
Presumably you mean "shamelessly" and exactly what "tropes?" At least some episodes will still deal with the Another Riders (there's Another Shinobi, Quiz and presumably Kikai). We know that the major plot strands are Oma Zi-O, and an alternate future timeline that Kamen Rider Woz comes from. Time travel will still be involved and potentially more tributes to past Kamen Rider (I would be very surprised if there is no Drive episode.) There is no indication Sougo will keep dying. How would it be like Ghost? I am not talking about Sougo being anything like Takeru, character-wise, or the multiples he will be killed in the remaining episodes. I am talking about the god-damn writing of the show because, it's a possibility that Zi-O will suffer the same fate as Ghost had, writing-wise. In which it started of interesting in its' first few episodes, but then it suddenly started to suck because either the head-writer went off to do something else while the show was going on and that they had find someone else to run the show, or it could be the lack of insert songs or the show's budget being wasted on other things like how they lazily made the luminaries' spirit forms or if the fight choreography is lacklustering or if they spend less time giving us a coherent story or any logical consistencies for that matter or if they keep shoving in more riders and more characters and give less focus on the actual main protagonists of the show, or if the villain characters just flat out suck or if they're not interesting to watch because of lazy-writing. I mean, Kamen Rider Ghost had more potential if they had either stretched out the search for the missing 15 eyecons for at least 38 episodes or such, or if they let Takeru died three times in the show and not four times, which includes the movie. Yes, Takeru died in his summer movie, for the fourth god-damn time!!!! And it gets really annoying really fast, and of course...Takeru should not have been written as a stereotypical token goody-good two shoes. Nobody wants to relate to goody-good two-shoes. They prefer characters like Emu Houjou, or Kouta Kazaruba or to a degree, Eiji Hino or Shoutarou Hidari. They all have flaws to overcome and they have more likeable personalities that people can actually relate to in life. Now with, Zi-O. It's supposed to be focused on Sougo trying to change his own fate from being this "evil tyrannical overlord who ruled the world with an iron fist and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah!" And he supposed to be connected to the past Heisei-era Kamen Riders because of that time manipulation and and time alteration crap from the villains by gaining their trust and wielding their powers in the form of the ride watches, and that's it. But, from what I have seen from the preview of episode 17 of the show and the image scans, yeah, it's likely that the writers and producers are probably gonna forget about what they're just doing with the story they just came up with and abandon the whole anniversary bit and just make up crap as they go a long just to keep promoting brand new toys to sell and shift all the focus away from our main protagonists and make this be all about other characters like Future Woz and Kamen Rider Shinobi instead of Sougo, Tsukuyomi and Geiz. |
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Post by crossranger on Dec 28, 2018 22:26:37 GMT -5
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I'm with Kaizoku in this one. I think the show gets better with the time, and we don't know how it gonna end. At the beginning, it looks like this would be a Decade-like show, with a Shonen-type character (coughNarutoBlackCLoverOnePiececough), who had a catchphrase like every single Shonen-type Manga/Anime had (well, several Riders had some catchphrase like that, which encase a goal), while paying tributes to former Riders, in a lazy way, and, again like Decade, trying to avoid a dark fate. Bringing back the old actors, instead of Alt.worlds versions like Decade did, was a nice effort. But the show still was meh to me. In their latest episodes, since episode 8, it get a new tone. Sougo looks more active in avoid the fate of being Oma ZI-O, its more ambitious, later with the incorporation of Tsukasa/Decade (he came to avoid this show will transform in a dumpster fire, like his show? We'll never know) and Woz, now plotting with both sides, and focusing in Oma ZI-O, and not forgeting him as "the future menace" (unlike Decade and its "Destroyer of Worlds" concept, only remembered near the end), seems the show got better. My only grip is the Time Jackers, they went to the background, and beyond creating another Riders, they don't look so menacing anymore. And their plans don't have an explanation yet.
You talk about a change of writers, but I think already happens. This batch of episodes, from 9 to 15 went to a writer (Nobuhiro Mouri), who gives a new momentum to the show, beyond of "let's make a tribute" kind of episodes. I don't have a problem with throw things away, if they don't work. The anniversary thing? They burning a Rider per arc, even two Riders per arc in some cases. How much will it gonna last? less than ten episodes, probably. I don't think we'll gonna see Joe Odagiri or another actor beside Kento Handa, pre Decade. Takeru Satoh was a surprise, but that was a movie. And the rest? Heck, Wizard, Fourze didn't come back, and we still don't know if Drive actor will come back. I have hope for Agito actor. Yet, you can't rely only in the anniversary gimmick.
My point is: I don't think they gonna throw away the "Sougo trying to change his fate" plot, or forget Sougo, Geiz or Tukuyomi, only to sell toys. I mean, they have to sell toys, but if they introduce new riders, I think is because, the Another Rider stuff, and anniversary tributes, are running out. I don't think they gonna incorporate Showa era Riders, like Decade did with Black or ALt. Amazon, or a ludicrous thing like the Missing Ace world. I think this Time Rider War, could have a lot of potential, if they use it correctly. It could be pretty awful too. But, so far, I think I could wait a little more.
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Post by purplecreator on Dec 28, 2018 22:38:48 GMT -5
I think I'm gonna spend New Year's binge watching Zi-O because I got some new video games.
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Post by Kaizoku Blue on Dec 29, 2018 8:35:17 GMT -5
˄ I'm with Kaizoku in this one. I think the show gets better with the time, and we don't know how it gonna end. At the beginning, it looks like this would be a Decade-like show, with a Shonen-type character (coughNarutoBlackCLoverOnePiececough), who had a catchphrase like every single Shonen-type Manga/Anime had (well, several Riders had some catchphrase like that, which encase a goal), while paying tributes to former Riders, in a lazy way, and, again like Decade, trying to avoid a dark fate. Bringing back the old actors, instead of Alt.worlds versions like Decade did, was a nice effort. But the show still was meh to me. In their latest episodes, since episode 8, it get a new tone. Sougo looks more active in avoid the fate of being Oma ZI-O, its more ambitious, later with the incorporation of Tsukasa/Decade (he came to avoid this show will transform in a dumpster fire, like his show? We'll never know) and Woz, now plotting with both sides, and focusing in Oma ZI-O, and not forgeting him as "the future menace" (unlike Decade and its "Destroyer of Worlds" concept, only remembered near the end), seems the show got better. My only grip is the Time Jackers, they went to the background, and beyond creating another Riders, they don't look so menacing anymore. And their plans don't have an explanation yet. You talk about a change of writers, but I think already happens. This batch of episodes, from 9 to 15 went to a writer (Nobuhiro Mouri), who gives a new momentum to the show, beyond of "let's make a tribute" kind of episodes. I don't have a problem with throw things away, if they don't work. The anniversary thing? They burning a Rider per arc, even two Riders per arc in some cases. How much will it gonna last? less than ten episodes, probably. I don't think we'll gonna see Joe Odagiri or another actor beside Kento Handa, pre Decade. Takeru Satoh was a surprise, but that was a movie. And the rest? Heck, Wizard, Fourze didn't come back, and we still don't know if Drive actor will come back. I have hope for Agito actor. Yet, you can't rely only in the anniversary gimmick. My point is: I don't think they gonna throw away the "Sougo trying to change his fate" plot, or forget Sougo, Geiz or Tukuyomi, only to sell toys. I mean, they have to sell toys, but if they introduce new riders, I think is because, the Another Rider stuff, and anniversary tributes, are running out. I don't think they gonna incorporate Showa era Riders, like Decade did with Black or ALt. Amazon, or a ludicrous thing like the Missing Ace world. I think this Time Rider War, could have a lot of potential, if they use it correctly. It could be pretty awful too. But, so far, I think I could wait a little more. Yeah, none of this has to do with "tropes!", it's either stuff that xman personally didn't like ("Takeru's boring!") or speculation as to what might have gone wrong with the writing/production - things that we either can't verify, or that we KNOW won't happen again (Ghost's budget being cut to pay for Amazons) The new Riders (Shinobi, Kikai, Quiz) are guest characters anyway, they're basically just going to be like the past Riders that have featured so far (albeit a more substantial role like Takumi or Takeru rather than, say, Nitou) but with the premise that Kamen Rider Woz has stolen their powers in the future. That's why their suits are cheap kitbashes; the actual new Rider is Kamen Rider Woz, and all recent Rider shows have got a newcomer in the second arc anyway |
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Post by Sh Ranger on Dec 29, 2018 11:26:06 GMT -5
^ I think Ghost and Zi-O improved when Mouri temporarily replaced Fukuda and Shimoyama respectively. The Sakamoto Ryouma and OOO arcs surpassed the quality of preceding episodes, introducing new subplots and showing different sides to the characters. Fukuda was responsible for that mediocre Ghost summer movie so I wonder if the show would've been better off if it had a more competent head writer from the start. However, I have nothing bad to say about Takeru. He was one of the most heroic protagonists we've had recently. This is a guy who always put others' lives above his own, despite experiencing death, the burden of his father's soul and the partial destruction of his own soul. That's nothing if not an example of a true hero.
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Post by purplecreator on Jan 1, 2019 19:12:16 GMT -5
What exactly is the purpose & function of the Little Ball Watermelon Arms??? Is it a Watchroid like the Hawk one??? Or is it something else???
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Post by Combusto82 on Jan 2, 2019 8:24:20 GMT -5
just found out that Kamen Rider Woz is Another Woz. means there's two Woz in one show
like Kabuto had one- Kabuto himself and Dark Kabuto and Decade, too- Kamen Rider Black and Black RX
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Post by purplecreator on Jan 2, 2019 8:55:03 GMT -5
Seems like he's an alternate timeline Woz.
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