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Post by purplecreator on Sept 10, 2018 17:49:20 GMT -5
I also think it's not Sougo who's Ohma Zi-O. Often people can overthrow someone in secret or use an innocent person as a figurehead. Like in that NCIS episode with the crimelord that turned out to be the guy's accountant because the figurehead was comatose.
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Post by sixthrangerfan on Sept 11, 2018 0:46:20 GMT -5
So from what I got, here's how they incorporate everyone.
Each episode Sougo will head to the past and meet the main 2 riders. After doing that, they're history as riders gets erased by the time jackers. Like Ryuga and Sento, they will find those past riders in the present 2018, and show how they have been affected by a life without their powers. Then they work together and eventually give Zi-O a new armor.
Here's why this can work. For the most recent Riders, they will show up in person in the past. I would say, up to Fourze because the latest Heisei Final proved they don't look too different. Then, for the earlier Heisei, they can show them in suit in the past, and then meet them in 2018 without their powers.
This makes the Faiz picture we saw make a lot of sense. Because in a world without Faiz, both Takumi and Kusaka didn't die and lived normal lives. (Let's face it though, Kusaka's probably still a dick.) I think this is a good formula and a small part of me hopes the Showa Riders get in on this too.
If they succeed in getting every pair back for the show (let's hope), which are you most excited for? (Limit it only to main and secondary)
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Post by Kaizoku Blue on Sept 11, 2018 4:56:04 GMT -5
I have no idea what they'll do for the Fourze episodes. It seems very unlikely we'll get either Fourze or Meteor back - at a pinch, maybe Nadeshiko, but her actress is doing pretty well at the moment too. The most important members of the supporting cast were Kengo (whose actor retired for health reasons) and Yuuki (whose actress won't work with Toei again, they even removed her from group shots in the ending credits of Heisei Generations Final.) I guess they might have Sougo and co. visit JK and Ohsugi, or maybe Gentaro's students, in the present day and meet a suit-only Fourze in the past, something like that
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Post by purplecreator on Sept 11, 2018 6:50:25 GMT -5
We'll just have to wait & see. I'm curious about Hibiki, Agito & Kiva.
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Post by Sh Ranger on Sept 11, 2018 11:40:31 GMT -5
I also think it's not Sougo who's Ohma Zi-O. Often people can overthrow someone in secret or use an innocent person as a figurehead. Like in that NCIS episode with the crimelord that turned out to be the guy's accountant because the figurehead was comatose. I think Sougo is Oma Zi-O but the Time Jackers are the greater scope villains. It's possible that Oma Zi-O is playing a Kessler role and set up Zi-O and Geiz to become strong enough to fight the Time Jackers and restore history. That's just my theory anyway. This makes the Faiz picture we saw make a lot of sense. Because in a world without Faiz, both Takumi and Kusaka didn't die and lived normal lives. (Let's face it though, Kusaka's probably still a dick.) I think this is a good formula and a small part of me hopes the Showa Riders get in on this too. Yeah, I had a feeling that time travel would be used to bring Takumi back to life once more. And of course, Kusaka will lie and betray everyone even without his powers. It might be worth checking Murakami Kohei's Twitter for potential Zi-O updates on Kaixa Day, which is 2 days from now.
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Post by purplecreator on Sept 11, 2018 15:13:11 GMT -5
What's a Kessler Role???
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Post by xman on Sept 12, 2018 10:42:21 GMT -5
Well, here's to Zi-O's journey to being the Overlord. Episode two is alright, but I was expecting better.
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Post by Sh Ranger on Sept 12, 2018 13:48:46 GMT -5
A Kessler role, named after the main antagonist of inFamous, is an antivillain archetype from the future who acts as a catalyst for their past self's good character development as means to prepare for an even stronger enemy.
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Post by Kaizoku Blue on Sept 12, 2018 13:56:41 GMT -5
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Post by Sh Ranger on Sept 19, 2018 16:59:20 GMT -5
Sougo is the opposite of Tsukasa. In Decade, Tsukasa would learn a new skill whenever he entered a new world while Sougo sucks at physics and even simple platforming video games! It makes sense now that he wants to hire athletes and techies for his royal army since he hasn't displayed any qualities of a king yet. I notice he doesn't seem to have a fashion like his predcessors either. Shoutarou has the hat, Gentarou has the pompadour, Shinnosuke has the tie, Takeru has the sakura jacket, etc. So far, I like Geiz's and Tsukuyomi's characters more.
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Post by xman on Sept 21, 2018 20:42:18 GMT -5
I am on episode three of this show right now and I am about to quit watching this show because of the .5 episodes, especially episode 2 and 2.5 automatically erasing all of Kamen Rider Build out of existence by erasing Sento and Babou's memories and Sougo being an unrelatable primary rider character. I mean, who the hell would want to relate to someone who says he wants to become a king in the future. Exactly, what do you want to be king of?! A certain country that nobody gives a damn about?! I feel like Geiz is the only one who could be relateable to some people in real-life, but I don't know how long that's gonna last before the writers decide they want to f@#$ it all up in the mid-20's or mid-30's by making him an uninteresting character like Makoto/Specter or just make him into another Masoto Kusaka/Kamen Rider Kaixa, or another Daiki Kaitou/Kamen Rider DiEnd or whatever. I don't know what kind of sick game the directors and writers are playing with this show, but if I don't hear anything that will be remotely positive about this show before the new year begins, then I will have no intentions of watching tthe rest of Zi-O and just act like it never happened.
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Post by xman on Sept 25, 2018 22:26:41 GMT -5
Alright. So, Ex-Aid's arc...really nothing new. But, apparently it just altered the events of Ex-Aid's main TV storyline after Brave's debut episode.
And next week....Fourze's arc and the unexplained return of Takumi Inui (Faiz) and Masato Kusaka (Kaixa).
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Post by Combusto82 on Sept 27, 2018 7:32:23 GMT -5
x-man please use the spoiler tag because i have not watch new eps of Zi-O yet
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Post by purplecreator on Sept 27, 2018 10:39:45 GMT -5
I haven't watched ANY of Zi-O yet because of work and preparing for a con.
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Post by xman on Sept 28, 2018 7:41:04 GMT -5
x-man please use the spoiler tag because i have not watch new eps of Zi-O yet You do realize that the episodes were already spoiled by the previews of what's going to happen, next week and by the Telebi magazine scans, right?! So, there's really no point of me using these spoiler tags, if the show's previews, and social media are just literally giving away all the damn spoilers. Sorry, but that is your problem, not mine. If I wanted to use a spoiler tag, then I should probably do it, whenever I feel like I want to do a full review of a show or a movie, okay?! I haven't watched ANY of Zi-O yet because of work and preparing for a con. That's okay. You're actually having a life outside of watching Tokusatsu and it's practically normal. So, you're not really missing out on much.
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