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Post by AlwaysARanger85 on Dec 11, 2018 21:19:16 GMT -5
it likely be community service or join the force to not be arrested and use there powers for the greater good and by the book.
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Post by neoaguni on Dec 11, 2018 22:13:20 GMT -5
^ Destra mentioned that the Lupin Collection originated from the Gangler Dimension, hence why they're only compatible with Gangler safes unless modified for human use. So the Lupin Estate doesn't actually own any of it. Remember this, Sixthrangerfan: Stealing from bad guys is still stealing, it doesn't matter how you try to justify it. Therefore, the Lupin Collection needs to be confiscated by the cops, the only people actually authorized to handle them. And while jail isn't a proportionate punishment for the Lupinrangers' crimes, I do think some kind of punishment is necessary. That's why I suggest a fair sentence like community service or house arrest. You're forgetting a few crimes the Lupinranger has committed. Assaulting Police Officers Assaulting Police Officers with deadly weapons Trafficking stolen goods. Impeding officers in the course of their duties obstruction of justice conspiracy to commit a felony defrauding a government agency. reckless Endangerment All together this is about a minimum of 25 years in Prison. A Plea deal will see them serve probably about 10 with about 15 years house arrest and probation. |
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Post by sixthrangerfan on Dec 12, 2018 19:19:35 GMT -5
I wasn't justifying anything Sh, but its stuff like this that ruins a fandom.
^I mean all those listed charges. Be real. None of that will come up. And you wanna know why? Because in the long roll and the handling of the show, it just won't matter. While we're also bringing up charges, if it really mattered, why is Noel being arrested for supposedly helping the Gangler, and not for aiding criminals like the Lupinranger? Answer: Because for the show, it doesn't matter.
And seriously Neo, reckless endangerment, freaking every sentai has been responsible for reckless endangerment. Hell, that's what the mech battles are.
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Post by neoaguni on Dec 12, 2018 19:36:16 GMT -5
^Oh that's right thanks for pointing that out. Let's add Aiding and Abetting to the list of charges the Lupinrangers should have to face.
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Post by sixthrangerfan on Dec 12, 2018 19:38:51 GMT -5
No problem, I'm glad I can help people when it comes to making themselves seem like an arrogant douche
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Post by neoaguni on Dec 12, 2018 21:40:11 GMT -5
Glad you agree that the Lupinrangers are a bunch of arrogant douches
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Post by purplecreator on Dec 12, 2018 22:10:50 GMT -5
I find the Lupinrangers to be interesting. They're committing crimes to save the people they lost. Like Johnny Blaze selling his soul to save his dad's life.
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Post by sixthrangerfan on Dec 12, 2018 22:53:21 GMT -5
Exactly, purple. That's why I like them too
Neo, do u really need to be such a troll?
The last scene is probably going to be the Lupins showing up in front of GSPO and even though they now know who they are, it's gonna be an ending shot of Pato chasing after the Lupins
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Post by neoaguni on Dec 12, 2018 23:48:47 GMT -5
I find the Lupinrangers to be interesting. They're committing crimes to save the people they lost. Like Johnny Blaze selling his soul to save his dad's life. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard you say, and trust me that's a competitive field. The major difference between Johnny Blaze and the Lupinrangers is this Johnny gave up HIS soul to save his father. The sacrifice was of himself The Lupinrangers are endangering innocent civilians to save their loved ones. That sacrifice is of others They are Not heroes nor are they anti-heroes. They are villains in spandex |
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Post by sixthrangerfan on Dec 13, 2018 3:12:39 GMT -5
No, that's anti-hero. If you think they're villains, that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. And exactly who have they endangered on purpose aside from the Patos, who they know can handle themselves?
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Post by neoaguni on Dec 13, 2018 8:59:38 GMT -5
Just an example but that Casino they shot up in episode 1 while there was still people in it. And that family that would have been crushed under that bridge if Keiichiro hadn’t been there. No they are Not anti heroes they are villains
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Post by Sh Ranger on Dec 13, 2018 9:20:33 GMT -5
^ Neo, I can see you've clearly done your research about the law and yeah sure, the Lupinrangers are guilty of many crimes. But to call them villains is just overlooking all the good deeds they performed, some of which were even requested and facilitated by the cops like when Patren 1 told Lupin Red to keep Splash to extinguish the fires. They steal for their own reasons and don't really care about justice, except for Kairi who shows the most remorse and secretly idolizes his big bro and Keiichirou for their moral superiority. Despite that, they'll still fight the bad guys and ultimately make the world a little safer. I would consider that to be antihero criteria for sure, not like the Ganglers who are chaotic evil compared to chaotic neutral Lupinrangers.
I agree that the Ghost Rider analogy doesn't really work though, especially considering the outcome of his father didn't change much. Instead, I think the Lupinrangers are more comparable to Catwoman/Arno Victor Dorian and the Patrangers are like Batman/Elise de la Serre due to the similar dynamic.
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Post by neoaguni on Dec 13, 2018 9:44:50 GMT -5
Arno wanted justice and Elise wanted revenge so that comparison doesn’t work either. But the facts don’t change the Lupinrangers are villains
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Post by Sh Ranger on Dec 13, 2018 10:05:25 GMT -5
^ That's a fair point. However, I'm certain there are no facts you pointed out that would make the Lupinrangers villains, rather than criminal antiheroes. Villains =/= criminals. If you're so sure they're villains and not even a little good deep down then perhaps you could provide your own definition of antihero so that I can understand what standard you're holding these guys to.
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Post by neoaguni on Dec 13, 2018 11:24:49 GMT -5
^It's really very simple. All even phrase it the same way Keiichiro did in a recent episode. "In their desire for the collection pieces they've helped the gangler get away. Allowing for more damage and endangering even more people."
So what's makes the lives of the Lupinrangers loved ones more valuable than anyone else's? In the words of Kouta Kazuraba, "Even if you have the best intentions if you go about it the wrong way It doesn't mean a thing."
If that's too confusing let's put it in the words of Kit Taylor's(Kamen Rider Dragon Knight) Dad. "The ends NEVER justifies the means."
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