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Post by BradyMcKnight on Mar 24, 2018 1:05:22 GMT -5
oh for christ's sake. i've seen way too many 'female gets bodily violated' plots on tv this week. There's no way Fitz can make this right or that the writers can justify this being necessary. i just, ugh.
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Post by neoaguni on Mar 24, 2018 8:01:10 GMT -5
^I have to say I agree to an extent. What Fitz did was... I can't even think of a word to suit it. But I do not believe Fitz is beyond redemption. Besides I think He's being harder on himself than anyone else could be.
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Post by AlwaysARanger85 on Mar 24, 2018 9:31:31 GMT -5
Ya that was very crazy. I wonder why they went that direction. Instead it Just just being from the fear dimension. It was neat seeing creel and the reveal superior was working with hale also. I am curious to see what this confederacy angle with hale goes.
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Post by neoaguni on Mar 24, 2018 9:52:31 GMT -5
I think that the trauma from the framework has exasperated Fitz’s head injury. Now he’s showing symptoms of split personality disorder
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Post by AlwaysARanger85 on Mar 24, 2018 10:06:04 GMT -5
Well that is what Gemma said.
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Post by neoaguni on Mar 24, 2018 10:30:01 GMT -5
And I concur with the good doctor and on something of a touching moment how about the scene with Deke and Jemma
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Post by AlwaysARanger85 on Mar 24, 2018 11:19:05 GMT -5
I liked that reveal scene
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Post by neoaguni on Mar 24, 2018 11:40:55 GMT -5
So did I and it looks like that was exactly what Jemma needed
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Post by BradyMcKnight on Mar 24, 2018 12:38:58 GMT -5
Tbh the fact that she vomited might be a clue that she's pregnant already. So then she doesn't have to forgive Fitz for Deke to exist. She probably will tho.
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Post by neoaguni on Mar 24, 2018 13:28:14 GMT -5
Brady you have got to stop thinking hatefully. We all know what Fitz did was wrong and we all know that at heart Fitz is a good man. Not to mention Fitz is clearly suffering from some form of Psychosis. More than Likely Dissociative Identity Disorder.
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Post by AlwaysARanger85 on Mar 24, 2018 14:33:40 GMT -5
Plus even though what he did was wrong and terrible how is it any different for Fitz from who he was in framework. As he remembers that.
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Post by neoaguni on Mar 24, 2018 14:45:12 GMT -5
^and carries the guilt and pain with him. Keep in mind he said he doesn’t deserve forgiveness
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Post by BradyMcKnight on Mar 24, 2018 19:03:43 GMT -5
...I'm not "thinking hatefully" I'm just pointing out that if she's pregnant already - which is commonly linked to being sick in tv shows - that would eliminate any worries either Jemma or Deke would have about ensuring his existence or screwing with the timeline. She can forgive him - if she wants too - on her own terms instead of feeling she has to because the future dictates it.
As for "how is this different from the Framework" he was literally reprogrammed to act a certain way by Aida vs here where it was completely voluntary. That's actually 100% different. Like, complete opposite, actually.
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Post by neoaguni on Mar 24, 2018 21:16:58 GMT -5
^Jemma being sick like that could have simply been a result of her emotional state at the time. She just saw her husband pull Daisy's inhibitor out of her neck and then learned that Deke is her and Fitz's grandson. And before anyone really starts to bang on Fitz may I remind everyone that just two seasons ago Daisy Hospitalized Mack and nearly snapped Fitz's neck with her powers?
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Post by BradyMcKnight on Mar 25, 2018 0:24:10 GMT -5
Once again, Daisy's brain was literally infected by Hive. She was not making those choices of her own free will.
Hive violated Daisy and Aida violated Fitz. And now Fitz has violated Daisy.
I'm not "banging on" Fitz, just stating objective facts. Nobody on the team (who wasn't HYDRA) has ever done something this bad to another team member and it's not something that should be forgiven quickly or easily.
You're right, Jemma could just have puked from the information overload she had that day, but if she's pregnant already that would just make Deke's identity and easier pill for everybody on the team to swallow, especially the two of them. I'm saying this would be a GOOD thing for everyone's mental health at this moment in time.
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