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Post by xman on May 3, 2018 9:53:51 GMT -5
I have mentioned before that I really don't like the idea of having a Disney-era Power Rangers season last for 32 episodes a year as opposed to have gotten 38 episodes a year like what Ninja Storm through SPD did. Mainly because I hate rushed-pacing in each episodes. I don't like anything in a movie or a TV show where it feels like they had to rush the production just to they could have the product ready by next year or by the next release date. I prefer a product to have slower pacing to establishing any form of real story-telling and to have some actual quiter moments where the characters start to have some real down time after a hard day work and some real character growth and development. And I know that the Neo-Saban era of Power Rangers isn't any different since Nickelodeon has that stupid-ass policy where even season has to have a five-month hiatus and 20 episodes a year, which is even worse than having to rush everything in a matter of 32 episodes a year, and dumber. But, again. That's just bad business decision-making on Nickelodeon's part and it's not going to get any better, unless the company were to actually listen to what the fans really want and just make better busines decisions in the near-future. But that's unlikely to happen within the next 20 years or so. Disney, on the other hand...they really f@#$ed up on this one for trying to cut corners and be so damn cheap at the time all because they didn't give a damn about Power Rangers in the late 2000's and that they just wanted it to be a dead franchise at the time. And that is just sad, in my opinion. I mean, maybe if they hadn't been wasting trying to promote most of those god-awful live-action Disney Channel TV shows in the late 2000's and stop making those terrible direct-to-DVD animated sequels, save for a few good ones and started listening to the fans of Power Rangers in general and asked if they wanted to see the franchise being expanded upon even further besides being a TV show that is meant to sell toys to kids at the time. We could've gotten something unique to talk more about and maybe Mystic Force and Operation Overdrive would've gotten more positive feedback back then. And maybe we could have gotten an actual cinematic Power Rangers rebooted universe. But, nope. We got nothing, but disappointment and utter incompetence for the past 12 years. Yes, that would mean that I have to include the actual progress of the Neo-Saban era since Disney gave up the rights back in 2010. But that's what the past 12 years have been for some people....disappointment and incompetence.
Anyways, enough of my huge rant. What do you guys think? Should Mystic Force to RPM have gotten more episodes a year or not?
You decide.
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Post by FangZeronos on May 3, 2018 11:40:13 GMT -5
It really depends on the season.
Personally, I thought Overdrive should have had a few more episodes that actually moved the plot along instead of mostly being filler. Overdrive had a good premise but was poorly executed in the long run and could have benefitted from more episodes, turning each gem of the Corona Aurora into a two episode arc that saw them exploring whatever new location the gems popped up in.
Others like Mystic Force and Jungle Fury were fine at 32 episodes because they were more cohesive and didn't need to waste time on four or five episodes of filler between major plot points. It'd be like Jungle Fury (my personal favorite DIsney season) went "RJ's a werewolf and we're going to resolve that later! But for now, we have three episodes to deal with each Ranger having a new problem that never came up before. *three episodes later* RJ's problem was solved with Friendship and he's a Ranger now!" How it was handled in the season was better done because they didn't introduce the plot point, forget it for a real world month of episodes, and then go back to it. It was integral to that section of the show, just like Masters Swoop, Phant, and Finn going missing and hte SPirit Rangers coming.
RPM worked best as 32 episodes. We got Ranger focuses, ally focuses, and new toys to make kids beg their parents while still keeping with the "It's the end of the world and we're all being invaded by Skynet!" plot work throughout the season. Summer started out as a spoiled rich bitch who only got her head out of her ass when her actions caused someone close to her to get killed. Scott's guilt over his brother's death was his driving force and it worked because it was laced throughout the season instead of "My brother's dead and it's my fault. *22 minutes of action and no real development* Welp, I don't feel guilty anymore."
Like I said at the start of this, and I didn't intend this to be a ramble I swear to God, it just depends on what the season's trying to do and how they can make 32, 38, or even 40 episodes work.
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Post by Venusaur on May 3, 2018 16:58:23 GMT -5
The fact that RPM felt the need to stretch Summer's superfluous flashback episode two-parts and that And Action episode exist makes me think they really could have done RPM in like 30
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Post by FangZeronos on May 3, 2018 17:01:28 GMT -5
Yeah I forgot about "...And Action". THat really should have just been a DVD extra.
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Post by WarGreymon on May 3, 2018 17:25:36 GMT -5
Long seasons make for a lot of bland filler.
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Post by AlwaysARanger85 on May 3, 2018 21:03:13 GMT -5
Not always like someone said earlier. Just cause a season is shorter or longer means nothing for quality of season. That is squarely on the actors and if course the writing. And even filler episodes can end up being important or even good episodes. Just as much as key episodes could be crap.
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Post by mbozzo on May 20, 2018 15:53:03 GMT -5
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Post by fuferthought on May 21, 2018 15:45:49 GMT -5
Every season should get more than 32 episodes. I would say t least 40 per season or per year. Although I hate Mystic Force there are fans out there that appreciated it and if they couldve had some dope arcs in the seasons it could have changed my opinion.
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Post by Venusaur on May 26, 2018 12:28:03 GMT -5
Again I point to RPM made it abundantly clear they shouldn’t done more than 30 episodes.
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Post by redsurge on May 26, 2018 14:10:42 GMT -5
I think the story trying to be told and episode count should go hand-in-hand. If a Season gets too many episodes and doesn't have enough story to fill them; it'll feel unnecessarily drawn out. By that same merit, a Season too short to tell its story would feel rushed.
Minus some minor exceptions, PR has done a pretty good job with episode count. I think Mystic Force-RPM were fine with their episode count. And as controversial as saying this is to say, most of the Neo Saban Seasons have also done well with this.
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Post by AlwaysARanger85 on May 27, 2018 8:50:53 GMT -5
Personally I would go with a happy compromise of 38. As most sentai are 48 to 50 episodes. And we us usually skip over 5 to 8 episodes give or take due to x reasons. On top we may merge a few episodes of sentai into 1 pr episode. I feel 38 gets us where we should be. So we have enough to tell story and have just a few filler episodes as needed. Ie sentai heavy footage episodes and the like.
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Post by Venusaur on May 27, 2018 9:25:44 GMT -5
Personally I would go with a happy compromise of 38. As most sentai are 48 to 50 episodes. And we us usually skip over 5 to 8 episodes give or take due to x reasons. On top we may merge a few episodes of sentai into 1 pr episode. I feel 38 gets us where we should be. So we have enough to tell story and have just a few filler episodes as needed. Ie sentai heavy footage episodes and the like. We’ve had longer seasons than 38 episodes without issue. I’ve never seen a problem with 40. I don’t even think 60 episodes for season 1 was as big of deal as a lot of fans made it out to be now. To me 40 -45 is a good number. |
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Post by AlwaysARanger85 on May 27, 2018 10:48:01 GMT -5
I am not saying I wouldn't want more episodes. But just going by kids shows these days not many have more then 30ish episodes for a series. Then like I mentioned above going by sentai 48 to 50 episodes they produce. We do tend to skip a handful of episodes. Plus we either merge a few or just plain do totally original footage minus a possible zord fight. So we don't really need to have 50 or 60 episodes like those early years did. So going around 40 is just right. Though I do hope we can stop dam spilt in a series over 2 years deal.
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Post by redsurge on May 27, 2018 12:26:38 GMT -5
^It would be nearly impossible to split Beast Morphers in Two because it would hurt the toyline. The Go-busters Arsenal is simply too small compared to Shinkenger, Kyoryuger, and Nininnger. Even if we make original stuff, we'd need a lot of it to make the toyline last two years. Without a hotline to promote it, Hasbro probably wouldn't do a show.
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Post by xman on Jun 20, 2018 23:56:17 GMT -5
Long seasons make for a lot of bland filler. As FangZeronos said...it depends on the season. I am not sure if Wild Force had that many filler episodes, but I think it was a well-balanced season for main story plots and filler plots. But with a season like Mystic Force. Uh yeah....I think they really should've slowed the hell down with the atrocious fast-pacing in each episode. That is probably the reason why I disliked the production of Mystic Force being all horribly-rushed to 32 episodes at the last minute. Not enough resolutions for any of the main characters such as Madison, Chip, Claire or Vida. Now, if the season had lasted for 38 episodes at the time. Then we could've gotten enough room for an actual team-up episode between SPD and Mystic Force, not like that god-awful cameo of Piggy in "Ranger Down". Operation Overdrive's a mediocre season but really, the problem that I had with that season is that it was grounded on Earth, instead of being expanded onto an "Indiana Jones"-esque Power Rangers season in outer space. I mean, seriously. If Operation Overdrive was an actual space-adventure Power Rangers season with the whole Indiana Jones/treasure hunting motif, we could've gotten an incredibly awesome season of the Disney-era regardless of its' flaws. But since Disney okayed the idea of keeping the whole treasure hunting theme grounded on Earth, that really hurt the theme and tone of the season. |
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