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Post by Venusaur on Oct 21, 2020 18:29:49 GMT -5
1. The ADR had been atrocious since 2003
2. The SFX library had been ear bleeding bad since 2003
3. Nickelodeon has proven they are too incompetent to handle Power Rangers
4. Sentai has been laughably bad since Go-Busters
5. We’re clearly never gonna get another In Space-Time Force era or RPM again. It doesn’t matter if the show changes EP or company owners Power Rangers has felt exactly the same for the last 10 years
6. The 2017 movie underperformed proving Power Rangers lacks the nostalgia power of Transformers or Ninja TurtleS
7. Watching the clips of Astronema and Zedd in Beast Morphers (more like bowel movements) has already given me PTSD. Hasbro owes Melody Perkins and the family of Robert Axelrod an apology
8. Grid Connections was even worse than legendary battle and dimensions in danger
9. Seriously is it impossible to get good voice actors in Kiwiland?
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Post by boukengreen on Oct 22, 2020 2:34:44 GMT -5
1. The ADR had been atrocious since 2003 2. The SFX library had been ear bleeding bad since 2003 3. Nickelodeon has proven they are too incompetent to handle Power Rangers 4. Sentai has been laughably bad since Go-Busters 5. We’re clearly never gonna get another In Space-Time Force era or RPM again. It doesn’t matter if the show changes EP or company owners Power Rangers has felt exactly the same for the last 10 years 6. The 2017 movie underperformed proving Power Rangers lacks the nostalgia power of Transformers or Ninja TurtleS 7. Watching the clips of Astronema and Zedd in Beast Morphers (more like bowel movements) has already given me PTSD. Hasbro owes Melody Perkins and the family of Robert Axelrod an apology 8. Grid Connections was even worse than legendary battle and dimensions in danger 9. Seriously is it impossible to get good voice actors in Kiwiland? Your boredom has reached its peak, hasn't it,Ivy?
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Post by fuferthought on Oct 22, 2020 7:19:55 GMT -5
10 reasons why you should continue Power Rangers 1. It still makes money off this basic traditional formula 2. Too many ways to make the franchise better. 3. Still have a solid fanbase 4. Hasbro > Saban they can (and will) do more and got the money to do it 5. You dont have to splice sentai footage. Its a choice. Hasbro dont have to 6. Still gotta recoup that $500 million. (And they will) 7. Transformers been rebooted time and time again, PR havent seen animation yet 8. When Morphicon dies. Ill be nervous 9. Toy sales. Hasbro gets a bigger cut from toy sales cause they have their own makers 10. CW, Netflix, Hulu, Discovery, Cartoon Network 11. Bonus: Hasbro can literally put money behind all its material and reboot saturday morning cartoon block. Imagine if you woke up to a Hasbro line up PR, Transformers, My little Pony, GI Joe and some of their other items. And promote all of their toys during the commercials😂😂😂😂
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Post by zarius on Oct 22, 2020 9:03:31 GMT -5
6. The 2017 movie underperformed proving Power Rangers lacks the nostalgia power of Transformers or Ninja TurtleS Ninja Turtles has been struggling as an IP just as much in recent years, at least since the 2012 Nick show came to an end. The regular IDW comics are taking a breather, the last movie bombed and necessitated a reboot by Seth Rogen, and Rise of the TMNT didn't have a successful toyline and the series was cut short. Transformers has also been partially struggling as well.
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Post by crossranger on Oct 24, 2020 14:16:50 GMT -5
1. The ADR had been atrocious since 2003 2. The SFX library had been ear bleeding bad since 2003 3. Nickelodeon has proven they are too incompetent to handle Power Rangers 4. Sentai has been laughably bad since Go-Busters 5. We’re clearly never gonna get another In Space-Time Force era or RPM again. It doesn’t matter if the show changes EP or company owners Power Rangers has felt exactly the same for the last 10 years 6. The 2017 movie underperformed proving Power Rangers lacks the nostalgia power of Transformers or Ninja TurtleS 7. Watching the clips of Astronema and Zedd in Beast Morphers (more like bowel movements) has already given me PTSD. Hasbro owes Melody Perkins and the family of Robert Axelrod an apology 8. Grid Connections was even worse than legendary battle and dimensions in danger 9. Seriously is it impossible to get good voice actors in Kiwiland? 1. Not defending that. But they were OK during Jungle Fury/RPM. Also, RPM didn't have voice actors for the monsters of the week, so, that's a benefit...... 2. I agree. But I don't consider a cause for cancellation.... 3. Nickelodeon has 50% of the fault. The other 50% is Saban and Hasbro. 4. Sentai was always laughably bad. Gaoranger? Go-Onger? Magiranger? And what most people call "sentai is better" Zyuranger, please, don't get me start. Yeah, clear examples of masterpieces in toku..... 5. Well, partially true. But RPM was a great season in an era with lack of ideas, and stalled, with the feeling of "nothing to loose". I guess it needs new blood, but also, the desperation of trying something new to change the direction. And i'm not talking Power/Rangers, or the guy of the Netflix tv series that was cancelled. I mean, it needs something like the comics. 6. Both, the last Turtles movie and Bumblebee bombed or underperformed. "The nostalgia power" don't always help. Look what happened to Star Trek Beyond or Rise of Skywalker. 7. At least, you found a cure for constipation.... 8. Actually, I think it's better than Dimensions in Danger. That episode is baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad. But sure, Legendary Battle is better crossover. Everybody needs to apologize with Megaforce/Super Megaforce right now..... 9. Still, not a good reason to cancel the show....
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Post by Venusaur on Oct 24, 2020 15:00:47 GMT -5
1. Not defending that. But they were OK during Jungle Fury/RPM. Also, RPM didn't have voice actors for the monsters of the week, so, that's a benefit...... RPM suffered the least in the production move to New Zealand, because as you said the monsters of the week didn't really talk. Not the sole reason but among everything else it is another reason. Put is this way the show has been produced in New Zealand far longer than it was in California. It shouldn't still sound worse than season 1 from a sound production standpoint. I don't think it's a coincidence the first notable rating decline happened after Samurai's first major hiatus. And Nick era Power Rangers was never able to replicate the solid ratings Samurai got before its first major "midseason" hiatus. Not helping that Nick can't pace the breaks for shit. I disliked all 3 Sentais you mentioned so no arguments there. Zyuranger isn't what I'd call objectively good but it's enjoyable enough. Sentai at least used to have that campy b-level charm like Hercules and Xena or the Evil Dead movies. Now it doesn't even have that. That goes back to my point of new blood hasn't helped. Dino Charge might have been better than the previous series (at least the first season) but it still felt like it was made by the same people who gave us Samurai and Megaforce despite having a "new" Executive Producer. Changing ownership from Saban to Hasbro hasn't made Beast Morphers feel any different than the Saban Brands era. Compare In Space to Mighty Morphin despite having many of the same people involved and being part of the same "era" they feel vastly different. More so than say Samurai to Beast Morphers. I'd argue that's also fatigue. Bumblbee was like the 5th or 6th Transformers movie. The second TMNT movie while being almost enjoyable and significantly better than the first Bay TMNT paid for the sins of the first Bayturtles movie. True Dimensions in Danger isn't good but it didn't bother me nearly as much as Grid Connection. AND SUDDENLY JASON. But you're right Super Megaforce is owed an apology. Legendary Battle really wasn't bad in the slightest in fact I far prefer it to Forever Red and Once a Ranger. Again it's more of a symptom of a larger problem than the sole problem.
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Post by crossranger on Oct 25, 2020 0:05:55 GMT -5
There was some "new blood", but you're right. It feels like from Samurai to Beast Morphers nothing changed a lot, and I think it's the higher ups (Nickelodeon, Saban, Hasbro, whatever) toning down the show to be "2 to 6 demographics" is the issue. There is new writers in there, like Becca Barnes, and there was for a time James Bates, caring about the characters in Megaforce, but both there were shot down. By Tzachor? Barnes is still underlining under Chip Lynn. I thought she is gonna be EP or Head writer, but she is still in there co-writing with Lynn. MMPR to Space feels different because they have desperate and they change EP, writers and cast to keep the show going. "Survive, adapt, evolve" should be the motto of PR in those first six years. Imagine, Saban and Levy worked as EP in the first years, Tzachor being the producer, directing some episodes, with Doug Sloan being EP in Zeo, and first half of Turbo, and then, Boom! Mayor shake up, Chip Lynn became EP halfway through Turbo, they change casts with 4 Rangers gone (the entire of the cast! except the unpopular Justin!), they dropped Divatox being a terrorist, forgot about the Millenium Message, they add the Phantom Ranger, which only appeared in one episode in Sentai.... Koichi Sakamoto was stunt double, and then he became the choreographer, and then you have the trinity: Tzachor/Judd "Chip" Lynn/Koichi S. The three doing the best seasons ever. Chip being the head writer and creative force, Koichi doing incredible fight scenes, and Tzachor is a great Toku director, believe it or not. They were desperate times those years. Power Rangers wasn't the big hit during Zeo/Turbo that used to be in the first two seasons. The ratings dipped. They have to make everything to survive. I hope Hasbro understand this when they will make Dino Fury.
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Post by mnikolic on Oct 25, 2020 6:44:50 GMT -5
Power Rangers is a franchise. It will go away when there's no more interest left in it.
It won't end/be cancelled when Super Sentai ends/is cancelled. Power Rangers has proven that it can deliver TONS of original footage that's featured in its storyline for the current season in the past years, especially in the early years.
It won't end/be cancelled just because Sentai is getting worse every year or because the theme of its current season is unadaptable for Westeren audiences or because of XYZ reason.
So obviousely, PR still has a future. We may not get the type of seasons that, at least some of us, are used to from the fracnhise's early years, but even the previous owners knew how to make a buck or two, since they've done what actually worked. It's the same with Hasbro and any future owners of the franchise that might surface in the future.
ADR has always been what it is under a certain owner. SFX as well. Just because a movie failed does not mean that PR should be cancelled. There's going to be more movies down the road if Hasbro does the first one right. I won't get into the team-up stuff again. It is what it is and we have to live with it, despite the possibility of never being able to accept it for what is has become. Nonetheless, it's been great to see some PR cast members return to reprise their roles. And I'm just going to leave it at that.
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Post by boukengreen on Oct 25, 2020 8:00:34 GMT -5
Power Rangers is a franchise. It will go away when there's no more interest left in it. It won't end/be cancelled when Super Sentai ends/is cancelled. Power Rangers has proven that it can deliver TONS of original footage that's featured in its storyline for the current season in the past years, especially in the early years. It won't end/be cancelled just because Sentai is getting worse every year or because the theme of its current season is unadaptable for Westeren audiences or because of XYZ reason. So obviousely, PR still has a future. We may not get the type of seasons that, at least some of us, are used to from the fracnhise's early years, but even the previous owners knew how to make a buck or two, since they've done what actually worked. It's the same with Hasbro and any future owners of the franchise that might surface in the future. ADR has always been what it is under a certain owner. SFX as well. Just because a movie failed does not mean that PR should be cancelled. There's going to be more movies down the road if Hasbro does the first one right. I won't get into the team-up stuff again. It is what it is and we have to live with it, despite the possibility of never being able to accept it for what is has become. Nonetheless, it's been great to see some PR cast members return to reprise their roles. And I'm just going to leave it at that. Totally agree with everything you said,in my opinion sentai hasn't been bad by any measure only reason why it seems so is because gokaiger has set the bar to high especially with its great appeal to western audience also not only was the 2017 movie okay and watchable but also it looks like a good idea for Hasbro to go for another one given that last movie had multiple promising features, also just because the production quality is lacking doesn't mean the whole show should be cancelled, that's really stupid thing to do.
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Post by Venusaur on Oct 26, 2020 5:42:12 GMT -5
Gokaiger isn’t even that good and one of the most overrated things ever. It literally has “look we can change into past teams yay” going for it and nothing else. It’s the lazy Fanfiction of Sentai.
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Post by boukengreen on Oct 26, 2020 8:19:46 GMT -5
Gokaiger isn’t even that good and one of the most overrated things ever. It literally has “look we can change into past teams yay” going for it and nothing else. It’s the lazy Fanfiction of Sentai. Dude you've gone totally nuts, at this point all you're doing is criticising random stuff.
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Post by zarius on Oct 26, 2020 9:06:58 GMT -5
Gokaiger isn’t even that good and one of the most overrated things ever. It literally has “look we can change into past teams yay” going for it and nothing else. It’s the lazy Fanfiction of Sentai. Dude you've gone totally nuts, at this point all you're doing is criticising random stuff. The guy's a gimmick poster. Most of these threads of his are clickbait
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Post by Venusaur on Oct 26, 2020 12:20:51 GMT -5
Gokaiger isn’t even that good and one of the most overrated things ever. It literally has “look we can change into past teams yay” going for it and nothing else. It’s the lazy Fanfiction of Sentai. Dude you've gone totally nuts, at this point all you're doing is criticising random stuff. Oh no, how dare someone not like Gokaiger, that’s totally nuts 🙄
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Post by boukengreen on Oct 26, 2020 21:59:16 GMT -5
Dude you've gone totally nuts, at this point all you're doing is criticising random stuff. Oh no, how dare someone not like Gokaiger, that’s totally nuts 🙄 No body is expecting you to like anything liking or disliking something is your own choice but randomly criticising something without any explaining merit or demerit is plain stupidity.
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Post by Venusaur on Oct 27, 2020 7:35:07 GMT -5
I already told you Gokaiger isn’t very good and only has the Gokai Change gimmick going for it.
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