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Post by crossranger on Jul 8, 2020 18:00:25 GMT -5
^I still think he was passed off as white through his character, like what happened with Azim Rizk. I dunno if I can call that racist or not. Only because he doesn't look East Asian-type, like Japanese, Chinese, Korean, Thai, Indonesian, or Mongolian, it doesn't mean, he is not Asian. Geez, even if he is named "Nick Russel", he doesn't look Caucasian. Firass Dirani doesn't look Caucasian or white. Sorry, but I think it's offensive to don't call him "Asian", because he doesn't loook like Chinese, Japanese, or Korean, etc. That's a very "American" way to define somebody. For example, Alissa/White Ranger from Wid Force, have a Filipino actress. Philliphines is in Asia. HE IS ASIAN. Again. Azim is from Algeria. Africa. Latino or Arabian, it doesn't care. I dunno this Amrican obsession with "diversity", when Power Rangers have diversity since dawn of times, and season are always being judged if te writing or direction, or theme as good or not. Not, if "how much diversity the season have".
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Post by xaviersaintcloud on Jul 8, 2020 23:25:53 GMT -5
^You quoted a post from me twice, and gave a different response to each time you quoted my post. Also, you missed my point.
I'm not saying that Firass Dirani shouldn't be considered Asian. He's of middle eastern origin, and the middle east is considered part of Asia. Still, I think his character Nick is meant to be Caucasian since Leanbow and Udonna are his biological parents and they're Caucasian.
It's not uncommon for people in charge of casting to do things like that. In the first movie in the Alien series, there was a Hispanic character who was played by an actress who wasn't Hispanic at all. In BeetleBorgs, Herbie Baez, a Hispanic actor, played a character who was supposed to be black. In S.P.D., they cast Monica May and had her character be a Latina because they thought she had the look, and even thought she was Hispanic, but she'd later on say that she's actually white and non-Hispanic. There's also The Sopranos, where the vast majority of the cast members were of Italian origin, yet about four of the main characters were played by actors who weren't of Italian origin. Still, they were cast because the producers thought they had the look for the parts.
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Post by sixthrangerfan on Jul 10, 2020 2:48:27 GMT -5
Since people have brought up East Asian Reds, still wondering which seasons people think would be most fitting for an East Asian Red and a Black 6th ranger.
ToQ Zyuoh Kyu LuPat Kirama
IMO: ToQ would be best for Red, and LuPat would be best for 6th getting to be on both sides
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Post by sixthrangerfan on Jul 10, 2020 2:56:51 GMT -5
^I still think he was passed off as white through his character, like what happened with Azim Rizk. I dunno if I can call that racist or not. Only because he doesn't look East Asian-type, like Japanese, Chinese, Korean, Thai, Indonesian, or Mongolian, it doesn't mean, he is not Asian. Geez, even if he is named "Nick Russel", he doesn't look Caucasian. Firass Dirani doesn't look Caucasian or white. Sorry, but I think it's offensive to don't call him "Asian", because he doesn't loook like Chinese, Japanese, or Korean, etc. That's a very "American" way to define somebody. For example, Alissa/White Ranger from Wid Force, have a Filipino actress. Philliphines is in Asia. HE IS ASIAN. Again. Azim is from Algeria. Africa. Latino or Arabian, it doesn't care. I dunno this Amrican obsession with "diversity", when Power Rangers have diversity since dawn of times, and season are always being judged if te writing or direction, or theme as good or not. Not, if "how much diversity the season have". Cross, they clearly mean East Asian in earlier posts. Everyone else understood, and bringing up the middle eastern type countries is kind of a nitpick for Asian geography. PR has done diversity well without the current forced nature we see in shows today (like the current VoiceOver controversies in the US). It's just cool to see members of every general race to play different ranger colors.
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Post by crossranger on Jul 13, 2020 23:10:02 GMT -5
^ I don't think is nitpicking. I think it could sound racist calling a person "Asian" or "not looking Asian" only for the looks. It's the thing with Americans (and sorry if they are offended) but: the whole obsession with race and gender in the actual culture, that keeps transforming people into a "thing", instead of actual people. The whole thing about "wanting an Asian Red Ranger", it's gonna change something in the series?It's not for its benefit, it's just for please a crowd of people only caring for their own feelings, than the actual quality. Just saying. ^You quoted a post from me twice, and gave a different response to each time you quoted my post. Also, you missed my point.
I'm not saying that Firass Dirani shouldn't be considered Asian. He's of middle eastern origin, and the middle east is considered part of Asia. Still, I think his character Nick is meant to be Caucasian since Leanbow and Udonna are his biological parents and they're Caucasian.
It's not uncommon for people in charge of casting to do things like that. In the first movie in the Alien series, there was a Hispanic character who was played by an actress who wasn't Hispanic at all. In BeetleBorgs, Herbie Baez, a Hispanic actor, played a character who was supposed to be black. In S.P.D., they cast Monica May and had her character be a Latina because they thought she had the look, and even thought she was Hispanic, but she'd later on say that she's actually white and non-Hispanic. There's also The Sopranos, where the vast majority of the cast members were of Italian origin, yet about four of the main characters were played by actors who weren't of Italian origin. Still, they were cast because the producers thought they had the look for the parts. My double post was a mistake. I was trying to quote a different post. Opps, my bad. The thing is: Kevin Kleinberg (Trip from Time Force) is German, he looks Asian, and he played an Alien from planet Xybria. I don't understand the "Nick Russel is Caucasian by the name" logic. You say it: Herbie Baez is black Latino, but that it's not acknoledged it in the actual series. It's not uncommon: there are African descendants in Ecuator, Colombia, Brazil, Uruguay, Argentina, the whole South America. My friend in Argentina is black, from Brazilian mother. And latinos can be Caucasian too. I think is a mistake to obsess for the look of somebody, or the gender. That doesn't gonna change the quality of the series. As a lot of people said, and I agree, Power Rangers always did pretty good in the diversity department, and I believe it's because it's not obsessed with proving something to someone.
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Post by xaviersaintcloud on Jul 13, 2020 23:22:39 GMT -5
^In addition to being white, Kevin Kleinberg is also of Filipino origin, which explains his Asian features. I don't know about him being German, although Michael Copon is also said to be of German origin, and he's also Filipino.
I didn't say that Nick is Caucasian just on account of his surname of Russell, and that's not even the family of which he's from biologically. His biological parents are Bowen and Udonna, who are Caucasian, which would also make him Caucasian.
You're correct about how whether or not even Roland from BeetleBorgs was completely black (and non-Hispanic) wasn't touched upon in the series. Still, like I said, even if he was, it's not uncommon for people in charge of casting to do things like that. If an actor has the look for a certain part, they'll cast that actor for that part.
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Post by purplecreator on Jul 14, 2020 10:05:44 GMT -5
Some people of certain ethnicities don't always have the traditional features. My mom is Latina. Specifically Cuban. But like comedian Gabriel Iglesias' girlfriend, who's Mexican, she can pass for white. It's actually part of the reason why my sisters & I seem more white. Not just because of our dad, who I look more like, who's Norwegian & Italian. People can be different skin colors and still be a certain ethnicity. Cubans are a prime example. They come in every color of the rainbow. Major League Baseball players/brothers Livan & Orlando "El Duque" Hernandez are examples of black Cubans.
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Post by xaviersaintcloud on Jul 14, 2020 23:55:42 GMT -5
^Just like Steve Cardenas and Tracy Lynn Cruz. Tracy Lynn Cruz is Mexican, but was able to be passed off as white, since she doesn't "sound" Spanish. Steve Cardenas is half Mexican, but I don't know what else he is. He doesn't sound Spanish either, but it's cool that they let his character be Hispanic.
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Post by Venusaur on Aug 11, 2020 15:01:32 GMT -5
I would also like to see a Asian be red we haven't had yet. But diversity always been one of the best things franchise has had over other shows. Minus the whole debacle back in the day black guy black and Asian playing yellow deal. Is Eric a joke to you?
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Post by AlwaysARanger85 on Aug 11, 2020 20:19:52 GMT -5
No but I think folks a would like someone who is fully Asian vs being part or quarter asian.
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