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Post by TheGreenRanger on May 18, 2020 19:34:46 GMT -5
I found the answer! Well, according to Wikiranger.com, "Amit Bhaumik says, "My memory is a little fuzzy on the details, but the short of it is Tommy, between leaving in Turbo and reappearing in Forever Red, goes to Zordon's homeworld of Eltar around Lost Galaxy/Lightspeed Rescue timewise. There he finds the remains of Alpha 5 and takes him to be rebuilt as Alpha 7 (the one you saw in Forever Red). He also uncovers the source of Zordon's powers and restores the Red Zeo Crystal giving him his Zeo powers back. Some time around then he restores Jason's power coin."
There's your answer. Too bad the episode played out like a fan-fic... a space bike taking out Serpentera... yeah right!
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Post by BradyMcKnight on May 18, 2020 21:32:33 GMT -5
...you say the episode played out like a fanfic, but that paragraph from Amit was like 10000x more fanfic-y, and quite cringey.
For starters, Tommy never lost his Zeo powers. He didn’t have to “get them back” cuz he still had them.
As for Jason, I heard once that the Z-Wave at the end of PRiS fixed all the power coins. I don’t know if that’s an official source or not but it works for me.
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Post by iceranger32 on May 19, 2020 5:21:06 GMT -5
^I've heard that too and I go with that all the time. Also with Jason, it can easily be assumed that he still had his old powers even after the Power Transfer as the Sword of Light just copied Jason's, Trini's, and Zack's powers for Rocky, Aisha, and Adam. Since Jason, Trini, and Zack were still Morphed after the transfer, it can easily be applied they still had their powers. I get that the only reason they were still Morphed was due to Austin, Thuy, and Walter having already left before their characters could even be written off the show, but still, it can easily be applied to that the three of them still had their original Power Coins and could Morph when needed.
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Post by zeorangerfivered85 on May 19, 2020 13:51:42 GMT -5
One could always presume that an anniversary episode throws out all continuity, so of course all the powers are going to work and work flawlessly.
But here we have an earlier example of Adam trying to morph but it fails in the middle of the night, whereas Jason's is 100% good.
In the Space episode "Always a Chance" Adam tried to morph using his busted Mastodon coin. It works, but only for a short period of time. This is a result of what happened in the fight with Rito at the start of S3 when the thunderzords were destroyed. Jason's wouldn't be affected because he wasn't in that fight.
This theory comes from the idea that the powers weren't transferred between Jason, Zack and Trini to Rocky, Adam and Aisha but cloned. Meaning there were now two copies of those three coins.
It could also be assumed that Zack and Trini's would work as well as Jason's did be and likewise, Aisha and Rocky's would be like Adam's.
I did like how they let Adam film a new version of the classic morph instead of just using the season 2 take.
My question is how did T.J. and Justin get their Turbo powers back?
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Post by BradyMcKnight on May 19, 2020 16:41:37 GMT -5
This theory comes from the idea that the powers weren't transferred between Jason, Zack and Trini to Rocky, Adam and Aisha but cloned. Meaning there were now two copies of those three coins. My problem with this is it’s been established two copies of the same power is a big problem for the Morphin’ Grid. Kimberly couldn’t take the pink power coin in the wild west, and Trent had to destroy his clone ASAP. Zordon straight up copying the powers seems unlikely.
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Post by AlwaysARanger85 on May 19, 2020 17:00:21 GMT -5
I always went with Jason could still use his powers. As his was copied and it was ninja coins that was destroyed. As for zeo powers they where never destroyed so that wasn't a issue for tommy. Really only one who powers shouldn't have worked in forever red was tj as turbo powers where destroyed. But likely could have been a back up power like when blue turbo appeared in space.
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Post by mnikolic on May 20, 2020 12:28:59 GMT -5
I like to go along with tge following theory: 1. The Sword of Light only copied Jason's, Trini's and Zack's Ranger powers to a set of empty & powerless Power Coins. And because it's the sword of LIGHT and because Tommy's White Ranger powers were also created with light, it is possible that the combination of the two created a special safety net for Red, Yellow and Black Rangers. Which would eventually end up in the powers transferring back to their original owners, however, incompletely. When Adam morphed into the Black Ranger in "Always a Chance", what he did was trigger the completion of the power tranfer back to Jason, Trini and Zack. After all, if was Alpha 6 that warned Adam that if he used the busted morper and power coin that he could end up being drstoryed. Well, that didn't happen because of this safety net (power copying by using the Sword of Light and the White Ranger powers).
2. The Zeo Powers were never lost, they were just dangerous to continue using due to the Zeo Crystal becoming two powerful because it was used to recharge the Gold Ranger's Power Staff. The Zeo Crystal Trey used was far more powerful than the one we actually saw although Billy confirmed it was the same power source. Turns out - it wasn't exactly the same since Jason would have died if he didn't manage to summon the Gold Ranger Power Staff, unite the Treys and give Trey his powers back.
3. Turbo powers were lost, but since Justin was able to tranfrom in "True Blue to the Rescue" without any porblems, it's safe to assume that Zordon had a back-up for Turbo powers somewhere, maybe even on another planet. After all, the whole Power Chamber thing at the start of Zeo really came out of no-where with billy jusrt going along with it by saying that he saw the blueprints for it.
4. Ninja Storm and Dino Thunder powers were resored by Sentinel Knight, which explans how Broodwing get his hands on the Dino Gems in "History". Sentinel Knight probably took them to keep them safe for some reason, but the gem saving operation had failed for some reason so Kat had to push some buttons to enable Conner, Kira and Ethan to join the S.P.D. Rangers in battle.
5. Mystic Force's powers were never lost since all the MF Rangers have to do is to believe in magic... and done.
6. Venjix was cleared out of RPM Red's morpher, resulting in the SM Rangers safely using the powers in their season and the RPM Rangers making an appearance in "Legnedary Battle" and "Dimensions in Danger" respectively.
7. MMPR NInja Power Coins were destroyed during the Orb of Doom's time alteration effect, so they were probably restored some time after the time was restored to normal or the Rangers re-located the Ninja Temple and successfully talked to Ninjor. Thus, explaining Rocky doing his Ape Ninjazord summon moves and Tommy summoning the Fanconzord in "Dimensions in Danger".
Since the show's continuity is highly questionalbe at this time, the easiest way to explain some things - at least for me - is to find the easiest and the most logical explanation on how were the certain powers restored. Since the anniversary episodes don't give crap about continuity and are basically there just for the fans.
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Post by xman on May 23, 2020 12:11:58 GMT -5
6. Venjix was cleared out of RPM Red's morpher, resulting in the SM Rangers safely using the powers in their season and the RPM Rangers making an appearance in "Legnedary Battle" and "Dimensions in Danger" respectively. You do realize that RPM is set in a parallel universe, right?! Also, Super Megaforce is and will always be a piece of crap. Trust me, I have been rewatching both Megaforce and Super Megaforce and, guess what?! THEY ARE STILL CRAP!!! CRAP, CRAP, CRAP, CRAP!!! The only thing good ever to come from those two seasons, was that Ciara Hanna (Gia) was finally free to star in better projects where she is allowed to express more emotions and to have better material given to her wher she finally shine more as an actress. The rest of the cast members of Megaforce and Super Megaforce...well, unless they're individually staring in a Netflix, Hulu, Amazon Prime, HBO Max, or a Qubi original TV series or original movies, I don't think they're gonna have that much luck in auditioning for newer projects or being given decent scripts to work with. The worse case-scenario would be for these actors to star in a Marvel, or a DC comic book movie. Or in another Star Wars movie or another live-action Disney remake. But, other than that, the cast members of Megaforce and Super Megaforce aren't that lucky.
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Post by xaviersaintcloud on May 23, 2020 14:11:19 GMT -5
I did like how they let Adam film a new version of the classic morph instead of just using the season 2 take. I think I remember reading that was a version they filmed long before, but didn't use it until that time.
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Post by mnikolic on May 26, 2020 1:38:39 GMT -5
6. Venjix was cleared out of RPM Red's morpher, resulting in the SM Rangers safely using the powers in their season and the RPM Rangers making an appearance in "Legnedary Battle" and "Dimensions in Danger" respectively. You do realize that RPM is set in a parallel universe, right?! Also, Super Megaforce is and will always be a piece of crap. Trust me, I have been rewatching both Megaforce and Super Megaforce and, guess what?! THEY ARE STILL CRAP!!! CRAP, CRAP, CRAP, CRAP!!! The only thing good ever to come from those two seasons, was that Ciara Hanna (Gia) was finally free to star in better projects where she is allowed to express more emotions and to have better material given to her wher she finally shine more as an actress. The rest of the cast members of Megaforce and Super Megaforce...well, unless they're individually staring in a Netflix, Hulu, Amazon Prime, HBO Max, or a Qubi original TV series or original movies, I don't think they're gonna have that much luck in auditioning for newer projects or being given decent scripts to work with. The worse case-scenario would be for these actors to star in a Marvel, or a DC comic book movie. Or in another Star Wars movie or another live-action Disney remake. But, other than that, the cast members of Megaforce and Super Megaforce aren't that lucky. I know Megaforce and Super Megaforce are both crap and a 40-episode-long descrase to the entire franchise - I have had the worst opinion about that season and its "Super" part ever since it ended. It also made both Turbo and Operation Overdrive look good in my eyes (especially the latter one). I also know that RPM's set in a parallel universe as not one, not two, but three seasons have already confirmed it. I only wanted to share my view on how a certain theory of a certain Ranger team suddenly having their powers back works for me the best. Of course, everyone has the right to develop their own opinoion on the matter. Unfortunately, we have to go by what little even Megaforce/Super Megafroce has officially established and shown since the last team-up also confirmed and introduced a bunch of stuff to/for the franchise. With that said - I just have to say that the entire M/SM cast was unlucky because they could have delivered more. A large dose of blame goes to the then-producer who shall I not name in this post. Nontheless, I am happy about Ciara Hanna being able to pull at least something from it. On the other side, it's a real shame that not any of the rest of the M/SM cast members were able to break trough and do something in the acting area.
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Post by xman on May 26, 2020 10:46:25 GMT -5
You do realize that RPM is set in a parallel universe, right?! Also, Super Megaforce is and will always be a piece of crap. Trust me, I have been rewatching both Megaforce and Super Megaforce and, guess what?! THEY ARE STILL CRAP!!! CRAP, CRAP, CRAP, CRAP!!! The only thing good ever to come from those two seasons, was that Ciara Hanna (Gia) was finally free to star in better projects where she is allowed to express more emotions and to have better material given to her wher she finally shine more as an actress. The rest of the cast members of Megaforce and Super Megaforce...well, unless they're individually staring in a Netflix, Hulu, Amazon Prime, HBO Max, or a Qubi original TV series or original movies, I don't think they're gonna have that much luck in auditioning for newer projects or being given decent scripts to work with. The worse case-scenario would be for these actors to star in a Marvel, or a DC comic book movie. Or in another Star Wars movie or another live-action Disney remake. But, other than that, the cast members of Megaforce and Super Megaforce aren't that lucky. I know Megaforce and Super Megaforce are both crap and a 40-episode-long descrase to the entire franchise - I have had the worst opinion about that season and its "Super" part ever since it ended. It also made both Turbo and Operation Overdrive look good in my eyes (especially the latter one). I also know that RPM's set in a parallel universe as not one, not two, but three seasons have already confirmed it. I only wanted to share my view on how a certain theory of a certain Ranger team suddenly having their powers back works for me the best. Of course, everyone has the right to develop their own opinoion on the matter. Unfortunately, we have to go by what little even Megaforce/Super Megafroce has officially established and shown since the last team-up also confirmed and introduced a bunch of stuff to/for the franchise. With that said - I just have to say that the entire M/SM cast was unlucky because they could have delivered more. A large dose of blame goes to the then-producer who shall I not name in this post. Nontheless, I am happy about Ciara Hanna being able to pull at least something from it. On the other side, it's a real shame that not any of the rest of the M/SM cast members were able to break trough and do something in the acting area. Well, as Enter from Go-Busters would say, "c'est la vie!!" Although, a part of me is not sure if I want to see Andrew Gray return and reprise his role as Troy Meadows again in the near-future. I think he needs to improve more on his acting in other projects or pursue a career in voice acting as an alternative option before he is offered an opportunity to return to the franchise in a future team-up episode. The other cast members, if they're lucky, Allspark Studios might actually ask form them to come back for a future season, but as a mentor-character. Of course, I did hear an anecdote that Ciara Hanna would be interested in voicing Washi Pink's character in a Power Rangers adaptation of Kyuuranger similar to how her Sentai counterpart, M.A.O. (Luka/ Gokai Yellow) voiced Rapture 283 in that show. But well, see. Anyways, back to the main topic of this thread. Now, in Forever Red, the Zeo Powers weren't really destroyed in battle. They were just kept in storage, in case if they were to be needed again. The turbo powers were just made put of new material and new power sources, it's no big deal. As for how Jason got his powers back, yeah, I am gonna go with the theory on how the sword of light copied his original Red Ranger powers and transfer them over to Rocky. Hence why Adam still had the damaged power morpher and mastodon power coin from his battle with Rito Revolto in "Always A Chance". So, that's about it.
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