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Post by iceranger32 on Jun 4, 2021 8:19:20 GMT -5
Um, weren't they the ones that claimed that there was going to be a team up with Ninja Storm during Ninja Steel or Super Ninja Steel when a list of supposed returning actors came out before they were officially announced?
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Post by AlwaysARanger85 on Jun 4, 2021 14:18:35 GMT -5
Ya what bs there. No way or is ending. Maybe end working with toei. But could probably do there own. We won't know to we get official news. And no way they will end before 30th anniversary and we also have the movie too.
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Post by crossranger on Jun 4, 2021 22:30:55 GMT -5
Yes, they are reliable. They've gotten just about everything that's come out about the show right since they started covering it, yet the Toku/PR crowd continue to give them s*it for it. Usually out of petty-minded jealousy. And yeah, I'm totally gonna believe Tokupedia (literally who?), a wiki any schmuck can edit with second-hand information. The Illuminerdi have never said the show was ending in 2022. They've said we won't get new content until the 30th anniversary. And that tweet from Simon didn't confirm we would be getting further Sentai adaptations. All Simon meant to say there was the show had a future, which we already gathered when he confirmed Becca was staying. Simon himself was'nt aware about Johnathan Entwhistle being the creative steward of the franchise at one point, so his word isn't precise gospel either. It's very little wonder how salty the Illuminerdi are towards the fandom when their heads are so collectively entrenched in the sand with their arses waving in the air, ripe for the kicking...and boy, do those butts get kicked every single time, yet do those heads ever rise out of the sand and wonder why they're so red with embarrassment? No. Instead of owning it, they double-down and continue to tar and feather those guys, hoping one day they'll be wrong. It's not happening. This ongoing insistence that we should ignore the Illuminerdi and rely on something 'official' needs to stop. That just makes you sheep. Plans leak and we need to discuss them. Official sources won't give you the clearest picture of what's going on and they never will. It's not their job to do that. Especially just yet. zarius, I respect you and all. But the Illuminerdi is the same as any gossipper in YouTube claiming any valid rumor BS about a mayor franchise and saying "take it with a grain of salt". Like a moron saying Discovery was going to be cancelled at the end of seson 2 (we are almost season 4), Kathleen Kennedy was going to be fired from Lucasfilm three years ago (she's probably gonna leaving, but who cares. The damage is done) or they cancelled the Amazon's Lord of the Rings tv series (still there). Besides, the whole "Johnatan Entwistle runs the franchise" was something Forbes announced, being something so vague, that nobody knows what supposed to be. Like if putting a guy which his series was cancelled after the first season was some kind in faith in the franchise. Forbes also announced the creators of Game of Thrones gonna have a trilogy, like if that would happen after season 8..................Besides Zach Snyder was the "creative force" behind the DCEU, and anyway nothing stopped Warner from cutting scenes and putting Joss Whedon for write bad jokes in Justice League. Even if they are barely right, a broken clock is right twice a day. We have to wait. I don't trust the BS of the actual "nerd" media sites, or their gossips.
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Post by AlwaysARanger85 on Jun 5, 2021 9:43:43 GMT -5
Ya some of these bloggers/sites may get real news or do stumble on some scoops. But I rather trust official news from people in charge or from the more reliable news sites. In this case places like variety, deadline, Hollywood reporter. Honesty we really have no clue what going on franchise after Dino fury ends and the upcoming movie. And hopefully we will know more soon.
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Post by zarius on Jun 5, 2021 10:57:21 GMT -5
Ya some of these bloggers/sites may get real news or do stumble on some scoops. But I rather trust official news The illumneridi have been spot on so many times that refusing to trust anything they put out other in favour of 'official sources' is just silly at this point. Their scoops are consistent, and the only reason they're not believed is because half the fandom have a problem with the way they carry themselves in their podcasts. It's jealousy from fandom veterans who profess to know the ins and outs of it all, and all of a sudden these upstarts come waltzing in and, without fail, continue to one-up them year in, year out. It's a sin that this fandom is so out of touch and lagging behind the times. As far as we know, from what Simon has said, and what Illuminerdi has said, this is what's been gathered -Becca is staying and looking out for the future (Simon) -There are 'unfounded assertions' regarding the precise fate of the Sentai adaptations after Dino Fury (Simon) -Entwhistle is having second thoughts of stewarding the franchise (Illuminerdi) -Nothing new until the 30th anniversary in 2023 (Illuminerdi)
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Post by zarius on Jun 5, 2021 15:13:06 GMT -5
And no way they will end before 30th anniversary and we also have the movie too. Always, it's evident from this that you have only read half of what I posted or have only half listened to the Illuminerdi podcast...that or you are just making up things based on what you think you might have heard because you're backed up by a couple of other envious Alan Patridges in here who actually don't have a sodding clue what's going on. The biggest takeway is that you're assuming Hasbro will have something in production by the 30th anniversary that will run throughout the course of that year, when the rumour is that isn't the case and we could just get a mini-season/special, hell it could even be simply be the MOVIE that we get in the 30th anniversary. Just because you think there's 'no way' Hasbro will only produce one thing in 2023 doesn't necessarily make such a presumption a reality. Hasbro are expanding Power Rangers and that is not an easy feat, you need to hire different creatives, get in teams for adult and kids shows, tit takes time, co-ordination, budgeting, etc. That'll take more than a few years to properly realise, especially if they're not going forward with Sentai adaptations. The partnership with Toei is expected to remain, but that doesn't guarantee a Sentai adaptation post-Dino Fury, not with what Hasbro has been telling us through their licencing calls. This fandom really ought to be smarter than this, the fact they aren't and are content to be herded rather than be well informed ahead of time and assume everyone outside of Hasbro are liars is quite telling. I've been around this fandom for 19 years. I've never seen some of you act this gullible and ignorant of the changing landscape. It's like you've lost something of yourselves.
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Post by crossranger on Jun 5, 2021 16:15:28 GMT -5
Ya some of these bloggers/sites may get real news or do stumble on some scoops. But I rather trust official news The illumneridi have been spot on so many times that refusing to trust anything they put out other in favour of 'official sources' is just silly at this point. Their scoops are consistent, and the only reason they're not believed is because half the fandom have a problem with the way they carry themselves in their podcasts. It's jealousy from fandom veterans who profess to know the ins and outs of it all, and all of a sudden these upstarts come waltzing in and, without fail, continue to one-up them year in, year out. It's a sin that this fandom is so out of touch and lagging behind the times. As far as we know, from what Simon has said, and what Illuminerdi has said, this is what's been gathered -Becca is staying and looking out for the future (Simon) -There are 'unfounded assertions' regarding the precise fate of the Sentai adaptations after Dino Fury (Simon) -Entwhistle is having second thoughts of stewarding the franchise (Illuminerdi) -Nothing new until the 30th anniversary in 2023 (Illuminerdi) zarius, again, with with all the respect you deserve, the "level" of the scoops the Iluminerdi have is akin to "Hasbro is thinking in an animated series" which is the not a most "great" scoop at all because, 1) it's not a surprise, it's Hasbro, they work more with animated series for his toys, except probably Star Wars, 2) they say that stuff since Disney era, and 3) Johnny Yong Bosch said it in a podcast. The Hashtag show and Den of Geeks also claimed about the animated series since.....2017. Before the buy out by Hasbro. Also, "scoops" like Eric Frank was going to be the Gold Ranger in Zeo......because Jason D. Frank said it in a podcast (which enters in the level of "the DeFilippo triplets confirms the Gold Ranger was going to be in the Turbo movie but that fell out"). Again, a broken clock is right twice a day. The four things you gathered are so vague, that didn't mean anything. I dunno how Entwistle gonna have second thoughts about being the steward of the franchise, if nobody knows how a guy who barely did three thing (as his resume in IMDB), which were two small budget movies, and (the most important) a tv series that was cancelled after one season, can seward a franchise who survived 28 years on TV, and they can barely made movies. In the middle, thing about we are in the middle of a pandemic, where filming has to be with strict regulations, and animated series could be cheap (and yet, South Park producers made sure that a special was a difficult process). I do wonder if skepticism is a bad thing. This is not "Power Rangers fans are a$$holes because envy of the Iluminerdi and the Iluminerdi are defensive with a reason" or "Tokupedia is right" because, don't. I've hearing "$hi7" from scoopers, gossipers and "nerd media" since long enough that I don't believe in that crap. If I trust old fans? Probably no. But I don't going to throw them under the bus for some podcasters......
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Post by AlwaysARanger85 on Jun 6, 2021 7:13:15 GMT -5
Z I was not have listening or what not. Plus we know what ever happens in 2023 will be 30th anniversary be it the movie comes out there. Or we get a show after fury as this season and season 2 are 28th and 29th seasons of franchise. So if we just get movie we just get movie to celebrate the anniversary. Or we get another show and movie great. As for another show we likely won't know if we getting another live action show to spring next year once pre production starts up and trademark stuff happens and casting in the summer. I said it before we just really don't know what hasbro is going to do. Beyond there movie hopes. Will we have continue live action shows. Will they continue to work with toei. Will they decide to do live show but do it all on own. Will there be animated properties just so much unknown.
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Post by mnikolic on Jun 7, 2021 3:03:01 GMT -5
-There are 'unfounded assertions' regarding the precise fate of the Sentai adaptations after Dino Fury (Simon) The Hasbro/Toei split isn't going to happen because it can't. Toei owns half the IP and the concept of Power Rangers. That includes Ranger costumes, MOTW costumes, main villain costumes, all props, any Sentai sets used in Power Rangers and anything else that Toei has designed and was used by Saban/Disney/Neo-Saban/Hasbro for and in Power Rangers. The Sentai adaptations can stop easily since Hasbro is already planning out the fracnhise's future. Even if Hasbro makes their own designs for everything needed for a PR season, they still have to go Toei in order to get their permission to use their designs. The same goes for already existing designs from all of the seasons so far: if a veteran Ranger or an old villain would be set to appear in a new season with their original costume, that costume has Toei's name all over it. Ending the Sentai adaptations doesn't mean that the Hasbro/Toei split is under way. It can't happen, because: no Toei - no Power Rangers. Period. Even if the end of Sentai adaptations turns out to be true, I won't be surprised at all since Toei has been taking care of what works for Sentai way more than taking care of what can work in Power Rangers for the past few years. So there's hardly anything to adapt: Lupin vs. Pat wouldn't work because of the police/theif motif, ToQger wouldn't work because of the train motif and there's a lot of talk on another board why Zyuohger and Kyuranger wouldn't work as PR adaptations (the latter would be too expensive to adapt, for example).
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Post by zarius on Jun 9, 2021 2:02:37 GMT -5
...And now Simon regrets that he even said anything, and admits that he doesn't know anything more than anyone else does.
How do you go from "these are entirely unfounded assertions" to "penny in the air, noone knows"...these are pretty irresponsible tweets from a man in his position. He may have burned a few bridges in the office and with fans because of this. He shouldn't even be saying "noone knows", because Hasbro certainly do have a game plan. His bosses know, he should be assuring us that is the case.
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Post by mnikolic on Jun 9, 2021 13:29:03 GMT -5
Maybe his bosses are secretly reading PR-based boards and told him to "keep it down until it's go-time". Or maybe he really doesn't know anything.
But one thing is certain: Hasbro has big plans for the franchise. Which takes time to plan and properly prepare for.
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Post by zarius on Jun 19, 2021 10:34:56 GMT -5
TokuChris twitch stream with some details on what's going down at Hasbro
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Post by AlwaysARanger85 on Jun 19, 2021 13:04:29 GMT -5
That video isn't doing anything z. If we go to twich at what point in video is he talking or stuff.
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Post by zarius on Jun 19, 2021 15:35:55 GMT -5
That video isn't doing anything z. If we go to twich at what point in video is he talking or stuff. (Source: Rangerboard) 26:54 The movie was originally due for Winter 2022. 27:25: Hasbro reached out internationally to the licensing website for the 2023 date in the licensing statement to be removed. 27:38: The original pitch for the movie was that modern-day characters would go back in the past. This was just a pitch and not necessarily the final product. It now may (or may not) have been reworked into the older fan show that they have yet to announce, for a release in 2023. They are going to figure out something new for the movie. The movie is suffering from preproduction issues due to delays caused by covid as the people who should be working on the movie now are still wrapping up previous projects. (I assume he's talking about the Johnny E show, although it's weird because that has been announced) 30:42 Whatever plan they had for the movie morphed into the streaming show. And the movie is now a new project. 31:35 From what TokuChris hears, the project will be half exciting and half annoy people. 32:35 TokuChris assumes that according to international law, Hasbro can't re-release the same toys as Japan, it has to be different. This is part of the reason why they don't want to be stuck doing adaptations. 33:23 Ninja Steel was a nail in the coffin. There's a conspiracy theory that Ninja Steel was designed to drive down the value of the brand to make it more lucrative for Hasbro to buy it. 33:36 Chris knows as a fact that Haim Saban was very hands-on with Ninja Steel and wanted to make the show exactly as he wanted and he had a bigger input on NStl than DC. Someone at Saban brands told TokuChris that everything (on NStl) happened for a reason. 45:20 Lupin vs Pat was supposed to be flying-themed originally and that aspect lived on in the mechas. Toei consulted with Bandai US who gave several ideas. One of these would be that the show would be more appealing in the west if the visors were colored (like Timeforce) which is why they ended up looking like that. 59:06 There are details about the Ninja Steel Anniversary episode that haven't come out and won't be known unless a celebrity decides to talk about them. There were things negotiated that never came about. (TokuChris then moves on talk about Legend of the White Dragon and JDF's daughter so I am not sure if that's implying that the anniversary episode was connected to that?) 1:00:25 JDF saved the brand twice during Saban Brand with Super Megaforce and Ninja Steel. If it hadn't been for JDF, the brand would have crashed hard. (I assume that this is just a joke that has gone over my head right?) 1:02:17 The factory that Hasbro uses for PR toys is in China and has been locked down due to the delta variant of Covid. In addition, that factory has greatly increased the price of shipping to Europe. So the current batch of toys might be the last for a while. 1:13:09 He thinks Hasbro is still in contract with Lionsgate for the PR DVDs and he speculates that as Hasbro usually uses Paramount for DVDs that might be why no DVDs came out for BM.
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Post by crossranger on Jun 19, 2021 18:30:43 GMT -5
i Could believe 50% of the things TokuChris said, becuase most of them are "assumptions", no real, concrete facts. Not even "take it with a grain of salt". So. I could believe that, because, we're in the middle of a pandemy, theaters are close, movie productions are delayed, until they fulfill the protocols of prevention (like The Batman or the New Mission:Impossible).
Again, an assumption. You could say anything it was as a "pitch", but that doesn't mean it was true. So I don't believe it.
I don't believe the international laws or something are preventing adaptations, because Hasbro and Tomy-Takara have the same toys in U.S. and Japan, Transformers, and they work togheter and they're fine. I assume there was some copyright issues about design, but Hasbro should know that from the start when they bought Power Rangers. Toei owns half of the name. If not, they couldn't make Power Rangers in Korea, without Saban/Disney. And Hasbro right now. Probably is still a money issue, because they have to pay for the footage and shipping of the costumes, monsters and Rangers. But the design of toys? Hmm, I don't think so.....
I don't believe in "the purposely devaluation" of the brand, because Ninja Steel, but I believe there is some issues in micromanaging, probably Saban was more involved than the usual, and he wanted the show like the first season. More children-friendly. Or pre-schoolar friendly. But there are other issues in Ninja Steel too.....
I could believe this. Money and CoVid have more effects than you believe.....
Could be true. It doesn't mind. KyuRanger have input from BoA too. So it could be true...
I don't gonna say anything. I'm not sure if it's true. Let's say it is, why people want to divide fans? Didn't they learn anything from Star Wars/Star Trek right now? Well, I'm not surprised, dissapointed or anything. Thanks, zarius for the report. Informative.
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