Lupinranger Vs. Patranger Discussion Thread

^ I don't think it's pushing a romance. Just a week ago we had an episode where Tsukasa doesn't show even the slightest jealousy about another girl's interest in Keiichiro - if anything, she approved of Umika trying to set them up. That shouldn't be the case if Tsukasa were going to be his new love interest in the very next ep. And a bridal carry doesn't always lead anywhere - the Carranger episode of Gokaiger, for instance

^ Well, again, a character bridal carrying another isn't always leading to romantic development. I just find it very hard to believe that if the show were setting Keiichiro up with Tsukasa, they'd do it the week after an episode where he explicitly states his job is more important to him than a relationship. And that the episode wouldn't even hint at Tsukasa having any interest in him

^ He was very awkward around her when Umika brought him over for an unexpected "date". It looks like he liked her at least a little but thought that focusing on his job was more important. I saw someone compare him to Ichijou in Kuuga which I guess is true, but then Ichijou was that way because his father was killed while serving as a police officer, whereas Keiichiro is just overzealous

^ Sakuya deserves it. He keeps creepily pining after Umika despite her lack of interest in him (AND interrupting her at her job so he can hit on her) - I can't blame her for taking advantage of him. That and he annoys me generally, I wish he were actually getting permanently fired in the next ep

Now even the cast are calling out Kogure as being suspicious. But if it's just that Kogure is Arsene Lupin's descendant, then it's understandable that he might not want anyone to know that.

Okay so I've finally returned to the show and watched episode 13-18. 13 was another filler but at least it was enjoyable and starting with 14, the story gets back in focus as the Patrangers obtain Trigger Machine Crane and Drill.

It was interesting to see Keiichirou's backstory and his reason for becoming a cop. As always, his dedication to justice is what makes me admire him as a hero and now we know why he takes his job so seriously. It's the same thing he tells the kid at the start, beating the Gangler is the duty of police.

15 has Kairi dragged to the hospital by Umika to visit the injured Patrangers and asking why Keiichirou pushed his body so far. Tsukasa explains that it's more than a job for him and how he wants to protect the safety of everyone. Kairi is usually the most sympathetic towards the Patrangers and this makes him understand and respect Keiichirou a lot more.

There was a humorous moment after Patren U destroyed Togeno and everyone was cured of the poison where Patren 1 enjoyed his health enthusiastically while his teammates collapsed on the ground still in pain from the injuries Dogranio gave them.

Pato Kaizer Strong debuts and it's pretty strong! Goodie is excited and makes some cool rhymes but also confused about why Crane has a trigger. Despite Patren 1 shrugging it off, it's probably going to be very important in the future. I'll talk about that later.

16 debuts Lupin Kaizer Cyclone Knight and I like its finisher where Cyclone becomes a bow and Blade fires like an arrow. I just don't get why they originally put Cyclone on the left side, unlike Kamen Rider W whose right side was always Cyclone except for CycloneCyclone which was just a Final Form Ride. Obviously, Scissor needs to replace Yellow since Blue is the only Dial Fighter that can hold Blade. Yellow doesn't have a hand.

Jim speculates that Ganglers' safes are their cores. How would that work for Ganglers with multiple safes like Destra and Zamigo though?

After switching with Touma, Manta complains about his new body even though Ganglers have human disguises which means he should be more accustomed with having a human appearance. According to Goche, their human disguises can be changed if their identities are discovered, so why wouldn't Manta just get a human disguise that allows him to get girls which is his motivation for keeping Touma's body?

17 is mostly filler, fortunately though it's not that terrible. However, Keiichirou still has suspicions about the Lupinrangers' identities and Destra meets with Zamigo.

18 gives some interesting backstory for Goodie. He was the first Lupin Collection piece Arsene converted for human use and his mission is to protect all of the Lupin Collection. Destra mentions how the Lupin Collection came from their dimension so it should be impossible for humans to use. Remember Goodie's reaction to Trigger Machine Crane having a trigger? I think it's possible that Arsene's work was continued by the GSPO and Kogure which would explain why the Ganglers' Lupin Collection look different from those used by the Lupinrangers and Patrangers. Destra has given one his special pieces to Anidara, the eldest of the Crush Brothers, for some kind of experiment.

Kairi learns to accept Goodie's feelings and desire to help both sides. Goodie never visits the Patrangers' HQ and they rarely interact so they can't give him the same understanding. From their perspective of morality, thieves are thieves, which makes him an accomplice for helping them. Maybe in the future, there will be more of a mutual understanding between both sides.

I don't understand how the Patrangers think confiscating Goodie would stop him from just ejecting them later, which he does as soon as the Lupin Collection piece is retrieved from Anidara's safe.

Anyway, the show has made a comeback to the quality I enjoyed from the first 11 episodes and I look forward to the surprisingly late debut of Lupin/Patren X. It's only a matter of time.

If you thought Kairi and Kogure used a lot of French, Noel takes it to another level. He says various words like escargot, gateaux and au revoir. It's like Enter and Oren. Notice how many French using characters there are in Tokusatsu these days.

What's interesting about Lupin/Patren X's debut is that the Lupinrangers and Patrangers already find out it's the same guy. Which means his identity is no longer a secret. He actually announces he's Lupin X to a crowd and discreetly steals their cell phones causing Keiichirou to arrest him. Except Hilltop informs them that Noel is part of GSPO's French branch. And somehow, he knows all the Lupinrangers' secret identities. Both sides are immediately suspicious of their new friend/enemy.

Lupin/Patren X allows the Lupinrangers to borrow his X Train Fire and Thunder Lupin Collection pieces and Lupin Kaizer Trains is formed. Following the Gangler's destruction, X commands them back, splitting them from Goodie's body.

So what do you guys think of this new French using sixth ranger?