Orion
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Post by Orion on May 20, 2018 15:30:31 GMT -5
I'm super glad they haven't joined forces yet.
Why spoil it so soon?
This is a season that was built completely on suspense, trickery and action.
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Post by purplecreator on May 20, 2018 16:24:09 GMT -5
But it looks like Pink & Yellow are on their way to becoming best friends.
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Post by Gokai Gaburincho on May 22, 2018 20:35:08 GMT -5
LvP episode 14: After a string of admittedly decent fillers, now the show gets back on point. The Good: The obvious thing to mention is Keiichiro. This was his best episode. There was this debate going around about whether we should get the Patrangers' backstories or not, and I was in the camp that we didn't need it, but as the show went on, and now after seeing it, I'm glad they gave it to us, for the simple reason that the Patrangers are so sidelined in the show, and are sometimes treated as jokes. I think it was due time to get more focus on the Patrangers, and to give us an episode that takes them seriously. Part of the reason I was okay with not getting his backstory was because I automatically assumed it was just gonna be a cliched tragic backstory about his father being a policeman and dying on the job or something, but that's not what we got. The flashback wasn't about what gave him the drive and determination for justice that he has. I like that that was always a part of his character. It was about what I assume was the moment that made him want to become a policeman, and I think it's great. To be honest, during my rewatch, I almost teared up a little because of how heartwarming it was. It does a lot for his character, because now he's more than just Kairi's foil. I'm with him on more of an emotional level, and it totally makes sense why Keiichiro is so black and white. By the way, a cool little tidbit that I found out on the wikia is that the actor who played that policeman is actually Patren1gou's suit actor. That's pretty cool.
We even get backstory for one of the monsters. It somehow manages to be both funny and tragic at the same time. During the mecha battle in episode 4, PatKaiser accidentally steps on Odordo's brother, and he wants revenge. It's funny, because it goes back to that thing people always say about PR/SS, and why don't they ever just get in the mecha and just step on the monster before they grow. It doesn't make sense, but that's one of the things about these shows that I always give it a pass on. That being said, there are some sentai tropes that some seasons manage to come up with a fix for, and this season actually makes it work, because they can't form the mecha without GoodStriker, and the Lupinrangers need to get the Lupin piece before they destroy the monster.
Speaking of mecha, I appreciate that there wasn't any megazord battle. You mean to tell me you don't have to shoehorn a mecha battle in an episode, and the action can just be there to serve the story? We still got a battle with one zord, but still, I'll take that.
Speaking of action, SS almost always does this right, but LvP has been exceptional with it. Rheannan, I might need another gif, for when Tsukasa does her own Black Widow Takedown at 17:18 in the episode. That was awesome. Sakuya was good, too.
I also love the scene with Dogranio doing that one attack that completely demorphed Sakuya and Tsukasa. Now that's how you make a villain feel like a threat. I've been complaining so much about Dogranio just sitting in his chair and doing nothing this whole show, and knowing that this is the same writer as Zyuohger, can you blame me for being skeptical? After seeing that scene, I wish the show did more to build him up properly. "The seat I have doesn't come cheap, capisce?" That's freaking great. I don't need every sentai villain to be as fascinating as Zett, as interesting as Bladerun, or as compelling as Rio, but I do need them to feel like a threat, and play more into the story, and this was a step in the right direction. I hope the show can keep this up. The Bad: I only have 3 gripes with this episode, but they're relatively small. One, I love the idea of Keiichiro loving kids, especially since it's the episode where we get his backstory. However, the idea of the kids not liking him back, I didn't like that joke at all. I'm getting sick of the Patrangers just being the butt of jokes. I think it would have worked better for the story if that got to be a genuine moment. However, I can be less hard on that joke of next episode has a scene where that kid appreciates the Patrangers. If that happens, I can be slightly more okay with that joke. Two, a lot of people seem to see the Lupinrangers not morphing in this episode as a good thing, because of how much focus and pathos they've gotten, and because more of the focus is on the Patrangers. However, I think it's kind of a flaw. If they're having that much trouble fighting the monster, there's no reason for them to not morph. And three, Keiichiro's reasoning for not going back to the surface after he's hit with the poison darts makes no sense. He doesn't think his body will hold out? If that was true, you would think his body would be in more danger going further into the ground. The messed part is that this could have been easily fixed by having Jim and Hilltop somehow find out that that the crane was underground, and just have Keiichiro decide to go get it to keep it away from the Lupinrangers or the monsters. That makes more sense to me. Final thoughts: This is the episode that gets back to the quality of episode 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, and 9. Anyone who stopped watching because of the filler, now is the time to get back into the show. Next episode: It looks like another fantastic episode, with it being the 2nd part to this episode. It looks like we're still getting some more focus on the Patrangers, especially Keiichiro, and it looks like the Lupinrangers are actually gonna morph in this episode. I can't wait.
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Post by cd on May 23, 2018 16:19:04 GMT -5
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Post by Rheannan on May 24, 2018 6:54:06 GMT -5
The obvious thing to mention is Keiichiro. This was his best episode. I think it was due time to get more focus on the Patrangers, and to give us an episode that takes them seriously. It does a lot for his character, because now he's more than just Kairi's foil. I'm with him on more of an emotional level, and it totally makes sense why Keiichiro is so black and white. I also love the scene with Dogranio doing that one attack that completely demorphed Sakuya and Tsukasa. Now that's how you make a villain feel like a threat. And three, Keiichiro's reasoning for not going back to the surface after he's hit with the poison darts makes no sense. He doesn't think his body will hold out? If that was true, you would think his body would be in more danger going further into the ground. That attack was impressive. He barely moved and he wiped out everyone on the battlefield. Keiichirou is too stubborn for his own good though. The poison attack was nasty. He shouldn't have pushed himself so much.
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Post by Warxull on May 25, 2018 2:15:07 GMT -5
I love to see a final hybrid version of mix of both suits. His sliver Lupin Armor over his Patren Trenchcoat with wristbands & hybrid helment with both logos.0ver their main suit a new merge name as Lupin-Patren X as a phantom detective.
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Post by cd on May 25, 2018 6:34:54 GMT -5
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Post by AlwaysARanger85 on May 25, 2018 7:23:21 GMT -5
Some sweet pics of his two forms.
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Post by Gokai Gaburincho on May 25, 2018 16:52:21 GMT -5
LvP episode 15: This. I freaking loved this episode. The Good: I'm almost having a hard time deciding where to start, so I'm just gonna start with the Lupinrangers. I liked how they were used in this episode. Just like with episode 2, we're continuing the thing of the Lupinrangers coming to understand the Patrangers, and seeing how far they're willing to go to bring peace and justice. Kairi sees it with Tsukasa and Keiichiro, and Umika sees it with Sakuya. One thing I always appreciate in superhero movies and shows is the hero moment, the moment a character decides to put their life on the line to show why they are heroes. The scene where Keiichiro comes back and they all fuse and share in the pain in the poison is a Patranger-defining moment, and to paraphrase something a certain character said to another character in a movie that was came out last month, you have my respect, Patrangers. I also loved that they played the Patranger theme, though it's starting to make me think the individual versions of the openings are just gonna serve as the battle theme, which is disappointing. I appreciate Tsukasa a little more in this episode. I feel like my posts read like I dislike her more than I do. I don't hate her at all, but she's my least favorite. I just wish we would get deeper with her character. That being said, I liked how she is headstrong but not reckless, and she takes the time to try to formulate a plan. Togeno is my favorite monster of the show so far. This guy is freaking great. This is how monsters should be in every sentai episode: full of personality and smarts, and I can actually see them as a threat, and not just joke characters that are there to just get beat up. I love how he put the spike trap in his safe I actually kinda feel bad for him for not being able to impress Dogranio, and rarely does a show make me feel that way, and it goes to show that these shows don't always have to go the "not all monsters are evil" route to pull stuff like that off. By the way, did anyone else think of this scene from Captain America: Winter Soldier when Kairi was blocking Togeno's spikes with the Blade and Scissors Dial Fighter? I also like that we're continuing the plotline of the mystery behind the Trigger Machines. When Good Striker was wondering why the Trigger Machines had triggers on them, that blew my mind. That's interesting. If the Trigger Machines didn't have triggers on them before, who put triggers on them and why? It had to have been the Global Police. There's still the mystery of where are they even getting the Trigger Machines from. I hope the show deals with all of this pretty soon. The Bad: I only have 2 minor problems with this episode. One, the way Hilltop shows up to tell the Lupinrangers about what happens to the Patrangers feel forced to me. I think it's cool that the Lupinrangers get to meet Hilltop, and the "Hold Me Tight" thing is hilarious, but he had to show up right then and there, and it just came off as convenient. I can't complain too much because I wouldn't know how to write around it. Maybe it was a necessary evil. My other problem was the scene with Keiichiro and the kid. I hated that joke with the kid running past Keiichiro. Even as much as we took Keiichiro seriously in this episode, I still don't think that joke was earned. Couldn't that have just been a genuine moment? That reminded me of bad Marvel humor, and I thought that was lame. Final thoughts: Despite that, I still think this might be my favorite episode of the show so far. Episodes like this remind me of why I love SS. Next episode: It looks like they're doing a body-switching episode, with Touma switching with a monster. Oh, I wonder what episode this was inspired from? However, it looks like they're mixing it up a little, because Kairi is actually fighting the monster while it's in Touma's body, so maybe they're foregoing dragging out the rangers not knowing for the whole episode, which is a more interesting take, though I imagine the Patrangers don't know, and maybe that's the conflict. It looks like the show is going back to filler, but this could still be interesting. I'm disappointed it doesn't look like Lupin-X/Patren-X is gonna debut in episode 17, which I think is the sweet spot for 6th rangers, so I hope the episodes up until then doesn't feel like it's stalling until then.
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Post by neoaguni on May 25, 2018 20:10:46 GMT -5
Episode 17 looks interesting. I love character episodes (If they are done well). It'd also be an excellent chance to test a theory.
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Post by Kaizoku Blue on May 26, 2018 4:43:30 GMT -5
This show has already had way too many romance/crush episodes already (LESS THAN HALFWAY INTO THE SHOW) and they're rarely done well in Sentai. The only one I can think of that I actually enjoyed was Zyuohger with Leo and the bird enthusiast ...
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Post by neoaguni on May 26, 2018 8:20:40 GMT -5
What do you mean? The only crush episodes I’m aware of involve Sakuya and Umika which is clearly one sided
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Post by Kaizoku Blue on May 26, 2018 11:31:01 GMT -5
^ We've had at least two episodes involving Sakuya hitting on Umika and/or her trying to flirt with him to help the Lupinrangers; two episodes with Touma pining for his fiancee; and now an episode focused on a girl chasing after Keiichirou. 5 out of 17 episodes feels like a lot for the show's first cour
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Post by neoaguni on May 26, 2018 12:23:27 GMT -5
^Does Touma really count though? He was going to marry her before the season started, so it makes sense that his goals would revolve around her, right?
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Post by Kaizoku Blue on May 26, 2018 19:48:39 GMT -5
^ Still, it seems to be getting the most focus out of any of the Lupinrangers' motivations - a bit more than Kairi's brother and a lot more than Umika's friend. In this week's episode, we again have Kairi using Aya's memory to motivate Touma, with more flashbacks of her, and a comedy subplot where the Gangler uses Touma's body to attract a crowd of girls I don't expect others to share my personal view that Sentai is better when it completely avoids romance (there were no canon relationships at all for five years between Go-onger and Go-Busters, and the franchise managed just fine.) But LuPat definitely has more of it than other recent Sentai and it adds a soap opera-esque veneer that I find at best distracting
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