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Post by xman on Jul 3, 2021 15:56:21 GMT -5
So, recently, I just finished rewatching Denji Sentai Megaranger VS Carranger and yes. I had fun watching it. Now, I know that it's said that the movie is placed in between episodes 39 and 40 of Megaranger during the Jaden Sentai Nejiranger mini-series, but I have to ask. Why do we need to watch all of the past Sentai TV shows and the more recent ones in order to get to the crossover movies? Can't we just watch the movies on their own without having to worry about continuity being shoved down our throats all the time? Or are we just being forced to having to watch all these shows in order to see our favorite Sentai teams reunite and encountering the current team? That's all I am asking for.
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Post by Sh Ranger on Jul 4, 2021 9:03:20 GMT -5
Part of the enjoyment of watching VS movies for me is getting to see the returning Sentai and the continuation of their story, provided it's a Sentai I like of course. As for the current Sentai's continuity, maybe that's not so necessary, especially in the case of Kyoryuger VS Gobusters where the latter was barely more than a cameo in a superfluous dino crossover. However, my favorite thing about Gobusters VS Gokaiger is that really emotional moment where the Gobusters are desperately yelling at their Buddyroids to come back to them. I didn't even care about Gokaiger that much, but for that scene, it's my second favorite VS movie after Ryusoulger VS Lupinranger VS Patranger.
Now if I'm going to complain about crossovers, other than Kyoryuger VS Gobusters and literally anything where ToQGer appears, then I have to complain about those stupid "Spring Vacation Gattai Special" pieces of trash. Whose dumb idea was it to take over the Super Hero Time block just to do a superfluous crossover between KR and Sentai where nothing important actually happens? It's fine in Zyuohger/Ghost and Kyuranger/EX-Aid where it's just B plots in the usual episodes, but in the case of ToQGer/Gaim (granted, I couldn't care less about ToQGer losing an episode), Ninninjer/Drive and now most egregiously, Zenkaiger/Saber, it seriously ticks me off! The 5 week you-know-what hiatus last year was inevitable and the upcoming 3 week Olympics hiatus was inevitable. But Toei didn't need to add insult to injury by taking over SHT for a whole hour in the week preceding it to promote their movie! I have a feeling that something awesome or heartwarming is going to happen in Saber Episode 44, but now due to Toei's foolishness, I'll have to wait 5 goddamn weeks to watch it! This is an injustice to the fans!
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Post by xman on Jul 4, 2021 10:31:02 GMT -5
Actually, the Kyuuranger x Kamen Rider Ex-Aid crossover episodes were meant to promote "Chou Super Hero Taisen". AKA the "The one Taisen movie that killed the film franchise!!" The Toqger x Kamen Rider Gaim crossover was almost meant to promote in my opinion, the absolute worst Kamen Rider movie to be made in the modern-day, "Kamen Rider Taisen," the Ninninger x Kamen Rider Drive crossover was meant to be a prequel/prologue to "Super Hero Taisen GP," but the crossover didn't really do much to advance the story or either parties. Plus, the Ninningers were just immediately forgotten by Drive in Taisen GP. But yeah, these Kamen Rider x Super Sentai spring crossovers are just a waste of time and very unnecessary to make. Thankfully, I stopped watching these modern-day Sentai and Kamen Rider shows after Ryuusoulger and Zi-O because it wasn't doing it for me, I just found this direction to be completely boring. So, I don't have think much about what's going on with Zenkaiger and Kamen Rider Saber when I have got other past shows that I should be watching but never actually gave them a chance due to my busy work schedule. And by past shows, I mean, any Tokusatsu shows from the Showa era.
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Post by xman on Jul 5, 2021 12:24:13 GMT -5
Part of the enjoyment of watching VS movies for me is getting to see the returning Sentai and the continuation of their story, provided it's a Sentai I like of course. As for the current Sentai's continuity, maybe that's not so necessary, especially in the case of Kyoryuger VS Gobusters where the latter was barely more than a cameo in a superfluous dino crossover. However, my favorite thing about Gobusters VS Gokaiger is that really emotional moment where the Gobusters are desperately yelling at their Buddyroids to come back to them. I didn't even care about Gokaiger that much, but for that scene, it's my second favorite VS movie after Ryusoulger VS Lupinranger VS Patranger. Now, I do want to mention one thing that might have pissed me off in the past when I first saw the movie. And that was the Go-Onger 10 Years Grand Prix! reunion movie ignoring the events of Shinkenger VS Go-Onger like they weren't important to the story of Go-Onger or if the VS movie never happened when in reality, yes. It did happened and I don't like it when movies and TV shows are trying to tell me that it didn't happened. I'm not stupid. I thought about maybe the writers and the producers didn't have enough time to mention the crossover because they were on a deadline or they just didn't care. But for me, my attitude is this.... "If you want the story of the reunion movie to be self-contained, then don't even bother bringing back past characters from other seasons that came before or after the more recent show ended its' run!!" Or, "DON'T HAVE THE NARRATOR MENTION THAT THE VS MOVIE IS SET AFTER THE EVENTS OF THE PREVIOUS SHOW!!" May it feel like it doesn't need to have a place in continuity of either shows, but it would still have a good story to tell. Or do like what Captain America: The Winter Soldier, Avengers: Infinity War and Endgame did where those movies are aware that the events of the previous installments did happened, but they don't require you to at least watch them in order to get to the more recent installment. You can choose to watch those other movies, if you feel like it. But if you just want a watch the more recent installment on its' own, then that is okay. Nobody should have to be forced into watching past installments just because set of characters are doing a crossover together. The story should be doing its' own thing and attract new audience members to get into this stuff. That was my personal pet peeve about certain this kind of mentality about what storylines and events are and are not cannon. |
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Post by Sh Ranger on Jul 6, 2021 12:46:59 GMT -5
^ Oh yeah, the 10 Years specials for Dekaranger and Go-Onger were full of ridiculous contrived moments. I think the worst part was Jasmine gaining the broken deux ex machina ability to teleport anywhere in the universe from Reverse ESPer Genetics nonsense. I didn't like how Neo Deka Red and Yellow were anticlimactically executed either. However, I appreciate that Dekaranger 10 Years was actually used to set up the Space Squad crossover, which salvages it from being a total waste of time. For Go-Onger 10 Years Grand Prix, I would have liked at least some acknowledgement of Machalcon or even just Speedor's and Bear RV's relationship at all. But none of that ever gets brought up at all. "Engine Oh G7" isn't even a real Gattai you can make with merchandise! This is why I don't have any faith in the upcoming Ten Gokaiger, since I've already had my fill of Gokaiger after their crossover with Gobusters and their continuity is already screwed without making it worse. It's like all those Final Fantasy spin-offs and remakes Square Enix keep making, it would just be so much better if these companies focused on what is actually the main product. Toei should just bring back the Returns movies like the recent Ryusoulger Memory of Soulmates, since a smaller interval after the season finale means less chance of plot holes and more chance for having an enjoyable epilogue like Goseiger and Zyuohger. There should be more to a story than just pointless fanservice and violence. They really need to dial it back.
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Post by xman on Jul 7, 2021 8:58:15 GMT -5
Oh yeah, the 10 Years specials for Dekaranger and Go-Onger were full of ridiculous contrived moments. I think the worst part was Jasmine gaining the broken deux ex machina ability to teleport anywhere in the universe from Reverse ESPer Genetics nonsense. I didn't like how Neo Deka Red and Yellow were anticlimactically executed either. However, I appreciate that Dekaranger 10 Years was actually used to set up the Space Squad crossover, which salvages it from being a total waste of time. For Go-Onger 10 Years Grand Prix, I would have liked at least some acknowledgement of Machalcon or even just Speedor's and Bear RV's relationship at all. But none of that ever gets brought up at all. "Engine Oh G7" isn't even a real Gattai you can make with merchandise! This is why I don't have any faith in the upcoming Ten Gokaiger, since I've already had my fill of Gokaiger after their crossover with Gobusters and their continuity is already screwed without making it worse. It's like all those Final Fantasy spin-offs and remakes Square Enix keep making, it would just be so much better if these companies focused on what is actually the main product. Toei should just bring back the Returns movies like the recent Ryusoulger Memory of Soulmates, since a smaller interval after the season finale means less chance of plot holes and more chance for having an enjoyable epilogue like Goseiger and Zyuohger. There should be more to a story than just pointless fanservice and violence. They really need to dial it back. Yeah, I agree. |
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Post by cd on Jul 16, 2021 8:46:13 GMT -5
So, recently, I just finished rewatching Denji Sentai Megaranger VS Carranger and yes. I had fun watching it. Now, I know that it's said that the movie is placed in between episodes 39 and 40 of Megaranger during the Jaden Sentai Nejiranger mini-series, but I have to ask. Why do we need to watch all of the past Sentai TV shows and the more recent ones in order to get to the crossover movies? Can't we just watch the movies on their own without having to worry about continuity being shoved down our throats all the time? Or are we just being forced to having to watch all these shows in order to see our favorite Sentai teams reunite and encountering the current team? That's all I am asking for. If you want to watch the VS films without seeing the proceeding or succeeding Sentai, you can. They're simply standalone features with no bearings on the overarching and a majority of them, especially the early ones, are literally impossible to in the show's continuity. |
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Post by xman on Jul 17, 2021 16:53:20 GMT -5
So, recently, I just finished rewatching Denji Sentai Megaranger VS Carranger and yes. I had fun watching it. Now, I know that it's said that the movie is placed in between episodes 39 and 40 of Megaranger during the Jaden Sentai Nejiranger mini-series, but I have to ask. Why do we need to watch all of the past Sentai TV shows and the more recent ones in order to get to the crossover movies? Can't we just watch the movies on their own without having to worry about continuity being shoved down our throats all the time? Or are we just being forced to having to watch all these shows in order to see our favorite Sentai teams reunite and encountering the current team? That's all I am asking for. If you want to watch the VS films without seeing the proceeding or succeeding Sentai, you can. They're simply standalone features with no bearings on the overarching and a majority of them, especially the early ones, are literally impossible to in the show's continuity. Like for example, "Ohranger VS Kakuranger," "Hurricaneger VS Gaoranger," "Abaranger VS Hurricaneger," "Go-Onger VS Gekiranger" Yeah, only two of those movies are semi-cannon to the previous Sentai shows that came out a year ago and is continuing where those shows left off. But as far as where they are placed in the continuity of the more current Sentai series of the following year, yeah they don't have any place to fit in those shows because of a huge ton of continuity errors. The other two that I just listed...no continuity placements for either two shows. Unless, you considered Wendinu and Furabijou's explanation to how they got to Dino Earth in "Abaranger VS Hurricaneger" to be cannon after the events of Hurricanger's final episode, but that also ended up creating an even BIGGER plot-hole to Hurricaneger's 10 Years After reunion movie since they just completely ignored that and now it's like "No explanation to how Wendinu and Furabijou are alive again!! So, f@#$ you!!!!" See?! This is why I am starting to hate all these Sentai 10 Years After reunion movies because now they are starting to really piss off a lot people that would love to see continuity in their favorite shows and don't want important storylines and events to be ignored. Except for Dekaranger's 10 Years After reunion movie since that's meant to set up the Space Squad series and it also felt like its' own thing. And Gokaiger is already starting to piss me off with all their post TV show crossovers and their 10 Years After reunion movie. I mean, it was bad enough that I had to see the Gokaigers suddenly hijack the Zyuohgers of their importance into the whole Sentai legacy by trying is make it all about them in the Zyuohger's own damn TV crossover since uh, technically, this is still the Zyuohgers' show. Not "Pirate Sentai Gokaiger, season II!!" But now, they're getting the 10 Years After reunion movie treatment after the abysmal "Engine Sentai Go-Onger: 10 Years! Grand Prix" reunion movie?! No thank you. Now, the Pirate Sentai is officially selling out. And I really hate sell-outs!!! |
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