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Post by prangerx on Feb 23, 2021 17:42:04 GMT -5
If Hasbro really ends its relationship with Toei...Any chance Bandai and Toei could team up with someone in North America to do another US Sentai adaptation? I could see some legal and cost issues there. But if they could make it work, it would get Bandai a new toyline in the US.
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Post by AlwaysARanger85 on Feb 23, 2021 17:56:34 GMT -5
No likely then not as saban/now hasbro has the rights for this market and all.
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Post by prangerx on Feb 23, 2021 21:07:53 GMT -5
I mean if Hasbro and Toei split.
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Post by AlwaysARanger85 on Feb 23, 2021 21:16:15 GMT -5
Again with hasbro owning the rights and trademark in us no one else could do it here.
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Post by prangerx on Feb 24, 2021 17:00:55 GMT -5
I guess it depends on the non competes and how long Hasbro would have the rights for post split. Although it sounds wierd that Hasbro could cut ties with Toei and not let them ever work with anyone else. I wonder if that would hold up in court?
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Post by AlwaysARanger85 on Feb 24, 2021 17:30:45 GMT -5
again like i said hasbro owns the trademark/copyright stuff for power rangers/sentai in the us and select foreign markets. So toei yes also owns power rangers too. But they would not likely be doing anything with someone else. As any new group wouldnt have the rights to mm-present stuff which fans and general folks know as power rangers and all that.
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Post by cd on Feb 24, 2021 19:50:12 GMT -5
I guess it depends on the non competes and how long Hasbro would have the rights for post split. Although it sounds wierd that Hasbro could cut ties with Toei and not let them ever work with anyone else. I wonder if that would hold up in court? I mean, since Toei does co-own Power Rangers. they'll still get some a cut of the profit since we all know Hasbro is gonna be still using the Zyuranger designs, so it's still gonna be based off Sentai. Just like how Toei was credited for the 2017 Power Rangers despite none of the ranger, zord, and villain design being 100% matches for the original MMPR. |
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Post by Krypton1986 on Feb 25, 2021 14:24:37 GMT -5
Toei and Bandai could work together to get Super Sentai released in the West as Super Sentai should the rumours about Hasbro and Toei cutting ties be true. Toei are after all the co-owners of Power Rangers, so if push comes to shove, we may see Power Rangers rebranded as Super Sentai, ie in line with Japan.
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Post by prangerx on Feb 28, 2021 22:53:37 GMT -5
I guess it depends on the non competes and how long Hasbro would have the rights for post split. Although it sounds wierd that Hasbro could cut ties with Toei and not let them ever work with anyone else. I wonder if that would hold up in court? I mean, since Toei does co-own Power Rangers. they'll still get some a cut of the profit since we all know Hasbro is gonna be still using the Zyuranger designs, so it's still gonna be based off Sentai. Just like how Toei was credited for the 2017 Power Rangers despite none of the ranger, zord, and villain design being 100% matches for the original MMPR. Any new adaption of Sentai wouldn't be Power Rangers. It would likely just use an English version of the Sentai it adapts. Like Task Force (Insert Americanized Sentai name). |
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Post by prangerx on Feb 28, 2021 22:54:58 GMT -5
I guess it depends on the non competes and how long Hasbro would have the rights for post split. Although it sounds wierd that Hasbro could cut ties with Toei and not let them ever work with anyone else. I wonder if that would hold up in court? I mean, since Toei does co-own Power Rangers. they'll still get some a cut of the profit since we all know Hasbro is gonna be still using the Zyuranger designs, so it's still gonna be based off Sentai. Just like how Toei was credited for the 2017 Power Rangers despite none of the ranger, zord, and villain design being 100% matches for the original MMPR. Its interesting Hasbro can get away with this. When it was said Disney wanted to do an animated series and Toei nixed it. I wonder what changed? |
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Post by mnikolic on Mar 1, 2021 14:22:38 GMT -5
Hasbro bought Power Rangers from Saban for a large sum of meney. That's the changing factor here.
If you own a company like Hasbro and if you buy a fracnhise like Power Rangers and spend half a billion dollars on it, the last thing you want to do is to keep up the old formula and that's adapting a Japanese-based TV series into an American-based TV series using the footage, costumes, props and sets from the same Japanese-based TV series AND just hope that you make at least as much money as you spent on the production of 2 20 episode-long season (or 1 40 episode-season, if you will). What you want to do is actually to get the half billion back.
You can only do that with pushing the franchise forward and that means expanding it. Which means that getting rid of all weak links and replacing them with new, strong ones is more than necessary.
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Post by AlwaysARanger85 on Mar 1, 2021 18:53:18 GMT -5
doesnt mean we wont get live action shows still. On top of there movie plans, and anything else be it animated stuff and comics. Also like power rangers look transformers has its japan bases too so look there we have had many tf shows, and then the bay live action films. So looking at transformers they could still have live cartoons and other stuff. And hell we still have no official word if hasbro is breaking away from toei. Even if they did maybe they think they could make show on there own. Really how much yen to dollar does toei spend on a series production. We know looking at power rangers they spend about 20-30mill a year/2 years and that is having the sentai to take footage from. Maybe they could do it all on there own. Or things will stay the same with toei to we know its all what could be.
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Post by xman on Mar 2, 2021 21:39:32 GMT -5
again like i said hasbro owns the trademark/copyright stuff for power rangers/sentai in the us and select foreign markets. So toei yes also owns power rangers too. But they would not likely be doing anything with someone else. As any new group wouldnt have the rights to mm-present stuff which fans and general folks know as power rangers and all that. Precisely. Disney had their chances with the franchise and they've tried to kill it off after SPD ended its' run because some idiot executive thought that Power was wouldn't succeed as boys' franchise under its' brand name. Uh-huh!! Well, mr. Idiot executive... explain that mentality when the company just bought out Marvel and Star Wars as marketing franchises for kids, years later. "Hypocrisy, much?!" |
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Post by AlwaysARanger85 on Mar 2, 2021 22:07:18 GMT -5
Totally but that was downfall there with Disney at the time they where to focus on Disney Channel shows and Disney Princess stuff. Which yes still a big factor for them and always will be. But getting star wars and marvel help Disney branch out and all
Would have been nice to see rangers stay at Disney if the folks there cared for it and all. Just think if rangers was still there when star wars and marvel came. Maybe marvel or Lucasfilm fil. Folks would want to do something with them.
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Post by Venusaur on Mar 13, 2021 8:25:28 GMT -5
Fans seem to continue to misunderstand how this work.
Just because Hasbro may stop using Sentai footage entirely does mean they are no longer licensing Sentai. Power Rangers still uses creative concepts from Toei. Hasbro can’t just say “We’re going to stop using your footage and props and costumes so we don’t have to pay you anymore”
You all understand there’s a reason why dubbed Super Sentai in South Korea is able to use Power Rangers as a name right? Because Toei owns a part in Power Rangers.
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