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Post by Sh Ranger on May 31, 2020 15:42:32 GMT -5
Why are some people so convinced that the knight motif will be ignored just cause it's not brought up in the very basic synopsis? You don't need a synopsis to tell you "dinosaurs this" and "knights that" when your intuition can tell you that! Think about how marketable it is. Knights are cool, romantic and bound by a code of honor. What better way to teach kids morals than showing them the chivalry of knights? You can't do that with dinosaurs alone. The idea is too good not to use all of it.
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Post by purplecreator on May 31, 2020 15:47:12 GMT -5
Exactly, Sh! Samurai are the same way! So they will keep the Knight motif!
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Post by AlwaysARanger85 on May 31, 2020 16:07:06 GMT -5
Ya how different has every first description for a series been from what show ended up being.
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Post by PowerKamenSentai on Jun 3, 2020 18:53:23 GMT -5
Why are some people so convinced that the knight motif will be ignored just cause it's not brought up in the very basic synopsis? You don't need a synopsis to tell you "dinosaurs this" and "knights that" when your intuition can tell you that! Because these same people have done it twice already so they haven't really inspired a lot of hope. Maybe they will, maybe they won't. But with the generic "aliens" and "high school" plots, I'm not seeing a lot of great signs for it. So was using Go-Busters as a team of Spy rangers but we saw how that turned out with Beast Morphers.
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Post by purplecreator on Jun 3, 2020 19:52:30 GMT -5
What were the first two times they did it? I don't recall. Other than Daggeron & Lienbow. But they weren't part of the main team.
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Post by PowerKamenSentai on Jun 3, 2020 20:20:50 GMT -5
Ninja Steel almost completely dropped the Ninja theme and just made everything have a space origin. Even obvious ninja themed characters like Skyfire had no reference to their ninja themes at all. And Beast Morphers completely dropped the spy motif. They didn't even adapt the weapon transforming gimmick. They pretty much made it a straight up animal motif.
And aside from Chip, it's looking like the same people are gonna be behind Dino Fury, so it wouldn't surprise me one bit if they either ignored the knight theme and put all the focus on the dinosaurs/space like with Beast Morphers or called them knights and never did anything with the idea like the ninjas in Ninja Steel.
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Post by purplecreator on Jun 3, 2020 20:31:12 GMT -5
I hated where the monsters came from on Ninja Steel. It was one of my biggest problems with Ninja Steel. Not to mention the names of those monsters, the zord formations' names, the zords as a group NOT having a name, and the "Final Attack" for EVERY finisher! I liked the idea of the monsters being made out of everyday objects!
I hope Dino Fury sticks with the Knight motif. Even if that troll thinks it'll be completely ignored despite the aspect being incorporated into the suits, arsenal & zords.
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Post by PowerKamenSentai on Jun 3, 2020 22:18:25 GMT -5
Pirates were incorporated to the Super Megaforce suits, arsenal, and zords too. The spy motif was incorporated into the Beast Morphers weapons. That doesn't always matter.
Again, I'm not saying they for sure will, I'm saying I think it so far looks like they will unless they show otherwise.
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Post by purplecreator on Jun 3, 2020 22:40:14 GMT -5
But for Super Megaforce, the pirate theme wasn't really explained because it was just a power up! It was ignored because the writers were too lazy to come up with a new team that were space pirates. Even the Black Ranger pointed out his key was green but never got an explanation.
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Post by PowerKamenSentai on Jun 4, 2020 5:22:59 GMT -5
...That's not the point. (And the fact that it was a power up had nothing to do with it anyway) The point is this show is definitely not above ignoring motifs no matter how obvious they are. And I personally expect a similar situation from Dino Fury. But that's just my guess.
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Post by AlwaysARanger85 on Jun 4, 2020 13:49:53 GMT -5
Well we will see what or if much of knight story or aspect be used once we get to filming and of course get actual original footage screen. Again sure they could not mention knights at all. But who to say they couldn't throw some minor knight stuff. Like the alien foes culture is knight based, the ranger mentor could be from.same culture and knights and dinosaur have some sort of tie to each other in there culture.
It's not like they would make the show set in a weird medieval time and what not. With all the modern day settings in footage. Plus we haven't really don't a team from acient times really. Only a odd ranger here or there.
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Post by BradyMcKnight on Jun 6, 2020 13:53:12 GMT -5
But they could have done something like Mystic Force, which had an entire fantasy/fairy tale setting despite being set in the current time.
They could have done sonething like that for the knights this year, which would show some effort/originality, but alas...
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Post by crossranger on Jun 7, 2020 3:21:08 GMT -5
Pirates were incorporated to the Super Megaforce suits, arsenal, and zords too. The spy motif was incorporated into the Beast Morphers weapons. That doesn't always matter. Again, I'm not saying they for sure will, I'm saying I think it so far looks like they will unless they show otherwise. An incorporated motif doesn't mean it's acknowleged. Don't calling Super Megaforce "pirates", or don't acknowlege the motif, it's seems blatantly stupid. Again, Go-Busters motif was more subtle in the "spy" thing. Barely the weapons. And when the Go-Busters did something like spies? They never change identities, costumes, faking names, working like James Bond or something......like that episode of Lightspeed Rescue, when they disguised from old people, or fisherman, or whatever. Go-Busters barely did anything "spy-esque". The motif seems more like "cybernetic" or "high tech". In fact "Tokumei" means Special Operations. (Or Spec OPS) Gokaiger were space pirates: suits, mechas, weapons, big thing in the chest. Their attitude was "piratey". The fact they use powers from other Rangers is like "piracy-kinda" (like pirating videos from Internet). Everything in that seasonws pirate-like. Avoiding it seemed a big mistake. And coincidental, it was the worst season ever. Probably because they forced the whole "teenagers with attitude" angle in a series, with a footage so disparing (and with people behind the scenes with the creativity of a dog destroying a pillow), that seems so contrived. Probably the best episode was the Jungle Fury one, because the guy of Jungle Fury wrote it ( and even that, have Jayden saying "A Ranger must never let go of his weapons". Dude. What a line "rolls eyes") Ninja Steel motif was acknowlegded it. It was badly used. But the problem with Ninja Steel was not the whole "ninja" or "not japanese demons, but aliens again". It was, the plot was basically pretty bland, Dino Charge 2.0-kinda, with a McGuffin that villians wanted (and it cand do everything the characters need for the plot), the characters were OKish at best (and I`m being nice), the villians were incredible mediocre, and a "comedic pair" barely doing something funny in the season. Sprink it with stuff like "Redbot had a blog" (who have a blog these days), an official couple in the team, who barely did couple-y things (since when a romantic relationship in Power Rangers is important?), and well, episodes of Dino Charge, but with worst execution. Zords appearing from nowhere. Parents dating. Gosh. Beast Morphers had it better. They use more the "virus" motif of the villian, Grid BattleForce was Western EMC, the characters have good chemistry, the relationships don't seem to be forced, and the plot is good. The Enertron as an energy resource, and a gimmick the villians wanted, is pretty well used here. They incorporate the footage and ideas from Go-Busters better. I don't say Dino Charge is avoiding the motif. But so far, if they did, it sounds like it could. And it could be a terrible mistake. The motif gives a season more personality and it helps to stand out, if it's well used, amog other seasons. If not, what's the point?
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Post by TheGreenRanger on Jun 7, 2020 5:48:00 GMT -5
"But for Super Megaforce, the pirate theme wasn't really explained because it was just a power up! It was ignored because the writers were too lazy to come up with a new team that were space pirates. Even the Black Ranger pointed out his key was green but never got an explanation." So true, they had a whole theme they could have drawn upon, but ignored it. Even Megaforce which in the Super Sentai version was angels they ignored altogether. Kind of glad they didn't go with the train theme from Toqger as the one Megazord formation had an odd thing sticking out front making it look like it was inappropriate... creepy for a kids/family show...
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Post by purplecreator on Jun 9, 2020 20:29:20 GMT -5
When did I say that about ToQger?
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