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Post by xman on Jan 30, 2018 12:37:27 GMT -5
This is something that I have been trying to convince some people on the internet for about a few months now, ever since Ninja Steel came out. I have been trying to get it through their heads, that despite what kind of effort there was made to keep Power Rangers going during the Disney-era. The company, itself, still has no interest in buying back Power Rangers from Saban Brands. They've been constantly trying to kill it off for about eight years, since they didn't like the show, they never liked the amount of violence in the show, even one executive thought that the characters were swearing on-screen. Hence why the producers at the time were told to "dub over the sentai!". Another executive had this mind-set that Power Rangers was just a dumb kids' show that was meant to sell toys and nothing else in according to an interview from the Onyx Tavern podcast video on why Disney sucks. And yet, people still wants the company to buy back Power Rangers from Saban, why again?! I mean, yes. The Neo-Saban era has problems, okay?! No show is perfect. And yes, it could never be better than the classical Saban-era and Disney-era seasons. But, at least there is some potential that could've made the Neo-Saban era a new classic for a totally different generation, if they had fixed the tone of the show and make it more presentable for the 7-11 year-old demographic with a few mature themes and some smart goofy humor as opposed to toilet humor. But, for whatever reason, these new staff writers are incapable of doing that. But with Disney?! Like seriously, everyone thinks that everything is going to perfect like it was back in 2003-2010 when the company bought the rights to the franchise?! Uh, no!!! No it's not. Things aren't going to go back to the way they were. Even if Disney does acquire the rights to Power Rangers back from Saban Brands, it still isn't going to give the franchise the respect it deserves and the damage was already done with continuity being broken into two universes, the original Power Rangers continuity (Mighty Morphin' to RPM) and the Neo-Saban era. So, there's really no point of trying to fix whatever mistakes that were made in the past with the Neo-Saban era. There's going to be more mistakes being made and yet we're still gonna end up repeating ourselves and having the same arguments again, and again, and again, and again. There isn't going to be a middle ground.
So, yeah. It's likely that the Disney isn't going to buy back Power Rangers from Saban Brands anytime soon, unless if they are willing to buy the entire company of Saban Brands like what they did with Marvel, Lucasfilm and recently 20th Century Fox, themselves but let Saban Brands do whatever they want as long as they keep selling more merchandises and toys.
But what do you guys think? Should Disney even bother buying the rights to Power Rangers back from Saban Brands or not?
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Post by AlwaysARanger85 on Jan 30, 2018 14:11:50 GMT -5
They are likely never going to buy it back. They have no need for it. First they only continued to make show due to move and producers making it cheaper. They never wanted it. As back then Disney was all into its girlie shows at the time. And more so now they don't need it with marvel cartoons and star wars cartoon shows. So there is no point to it. And just like nick things where great for like what first 3 or so years. Then Disney crapped on it for last few shows.
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Post by xman on Jan 30, 2018 15:13:32 GMT -5
\I know, right?! I mean, I don't understand why so many other people can't take a hint. I mean, what good will it do for the franchise if Disney does intend to buy Power Rangers back from Saban Brands?! The answer...nothing. Oh, sure. The quality of the show will be better than the Neo-Saban era, and yeah, the acting may improve and all. But, it ain't gonna do a damn thing for Power Rangers as a franchise, entirely. And even if they could do something for Power Rangers, it's likely they're gonna end up repeating the same mistakes again, by moving the production to yet another country just to make the show look cheaper and then immediately kill it off again by cutting corners, and slashing the budget again, all because they care more about Marvel and Star Wars, nowadays. It will never give Power Rangers the respect it deserves as a franchise. Hell, Disney is even doing a whole lot worse with its' own popular animated shows. We still don't have a third DVD volume release date for Darkwing Duck, the original Ducktales TV series, or Chip 'N Dale Rescue Rangers. They have no plans on releasing Gravity Falls on Blu-Ray or DVD at all. They didn't even want to give the fans completed seasons of Phineas and Ferb on DVD or on Blu-Ray. They'll just give them a few individual DVD volumes with mixed episodes from other seasons and that's it. Not even Kim Possible is gonna get an actual release date outside of the Disney Rewards website for seasons one and two, and no release date for season three either. So far, it took Disney eight years for them to finally release the completed series of Gargoyles and I don't know how long it took for them to give us the third DVD volume of Tailspin. But, that pretty much shows how very little they care about their own popular animated shows.
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Post by Orion on Jan 30, 2018 15:36:08 GMT -5
It wouldn't churn them a profit though... Power Rangers has lost considerable stride since 2010, so it's a wishful thought.
If the franchise was repurchased, there would absolutely no room in the budget for it. 0% of a followup movie now, -100% under Disney.
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Post by AlwaysARanger85 on Jan 30, 2018 15:41:24 GMT -5
The other thing besides Bruce k, and guy who did first part of rpm. Most of the Disney Era was still various Saban entertainment folks like Doug. Jackie, kochi, etc... so really it was pretty much the old guard. The real different now is the total change of Saban Corp and how show is now.
As for Disney now like I said things are different now then when they got power rangers. So it's a franchise they don't need. And make far more off marvel and star wars ip.
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Post by fuferthought on Feb 1, 2018 19:24:05 GMT -5
The only reason I would say Yes to buying it back is because. Disney is different now. They bought FOX!!! Its new money floating around there now. If they were to buy PR I would hope they would scrap the whole chopping footage concept. Film their own material from beginning to end. That to me is the ONLY way it has a shot in the dark. Im sure the Disney wigs were laughing at the horrible splicing. Get the old uniforms sentai already used that we havent and film original material. Change the age gap. 4-12 and get better writers.
I wouldnt mind if WB bought it. I would love to see it on the CW.
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Post by AlwaysARanger85 on Feb 1, 2018 19:36:18 GMT -5
though again disney doesnt need pr with the marvel and star wars ip and shows it has. Plus if you look at disney proper and disney xd there shows cartoons to live action are not getting great ratings most are not even hitting a mill, and some maybe a few mill. So really if it did go back to disney ratings are not likely going to go up. even if disney got it and gave more money to production. No way it would every be a totally original new filmed show. As using footage helps keep costs down. Plus dont dont have to spend money to remake every single thing. Also it would not likely go to cw as they wouldnt put it on prime time as its 2 hr slots mon to fri are all filled up with many other shows. Plus i dont believe wb/cw/cbs who co owns cw with wb owns the kids click morning blocks that air on that channel certain days of the week. And with that if it was on kids click you think 1 mill it bad sns got on nick i doubt it would hit any big number on that block.
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Post by xaviersaintcloud on Feb 2, 2018 0:25:29 GMT -5
The only reason I would say Yes to buying it back is because. Disney is different now. They bought FOX!!! Its new money floating around there now. If they were to buy PR I would hope they would scrap the whole chopping footage concept. Film their own material from beginning to end. That to me is the ONLY way it has a shot in the dark. Im sure the Disney wigs were laughing at the horrible splicing. Get the old uniforms sentai already used that we havent and film original material. Change the age gap. 4-12 and get better writers. I wouldnt mind if WB bought it. I would love to see it on the CW. I swear to Christ, these are about the most unrealistic ideas I've ever seen anyone come up with.
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Post by zarius on Feb 2, 2018 6:53:11 GMT -5
People were constantly complaining about the Disney era seasons after Dino Thunder ended and prior to RPM (and yeah, even SPD got a lot of flack), so fans are a fickle bunch.
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Post by AlwaysARanger85 on Feb 2, 2018 7:03:46 GMT -5
So true every season is a different breast. And ya just like Disney and nick show seems great at start gets good amount of promotion. Then it just seems to drop off. Every show has its ups and downs. As for leaving nick even though we fans may not like how things are currently. We have brought up leaving nick doesn't really hope the show. As going streaming, making his own channel which already failed, or moving to another network doesn't really make much sense. Cause even if it did move it just fall into same problem Disney and nick have done after 2 or 3 yrs.
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Post by crossranger on Feb 3, 2018 12:20:03 GMT -5
Power Ranger NEVER gonna be bought back by Disney because: 1) they did bought it before, and they never figure out how to work with it. It's common knowlegde that Doug Sloan was the one who convinced the Powers That Be from Disney, to make a new series after Wild Force, moving the entire production to New Zealand. They bought PR, (and Wild Force was in pre-production) after they bought an entire package from Saban Entertainment and Fox Family. THEY DIDN'T WANT POWER RANGERS. They just found it in the things they bought (in some way) 2) they have Marvel, so they have already a (very succesful) superheroe franchise and a boys' oriented IP, and products to sell them, so why they gonna need Power Rangers? And, 3) Disney doesn't like to share. Power Rangers are shared with Toei, and every single decision have to be agreed with their Japanese partners, something Disney are not willing to do. PR it's always are an adaptation from Super Sentai. Everything has to be first, made by Japanese and for the Japanese (audiences) and later adapted to America and the rest of the world. That's why I believe DIsney bought 20th Century Fox. They want the X-Men and Fantastic Four back, sure, and other succesful IP: Avatar, the Simpsons, the original Star Wars footage (shared with Lucasfilm), etc. DISNEY WANT EVERYTHING UNDER ITS CONTROL. It's more than a simple urban legend, than the whole debacle of the X-Men and 4F from the comics (and the push and rising of the Inhumans, in comics an TV), was made for the lack of control of the IP's because they were in Fox's hands. So, when Fox wanted to be out of the entertainment business (only to be focused in Sports and News), Disney took advantage of this, so is win-win for both parts. In my opinion, this is bad. Disney is becoming more and more an entertainment monopoly. Marvel, Star Wars, Fox, besides beloved franchises from Disney. I don't have problem with Marvel, they have an strong "leader" in Kevin Feige. He knows how to steer the wheel of the franchise. But after the whole controversy of the Last Jedi, the rumors about the directors' firing, and the whole bad things about the Han Solo movies, I don't believe Kathleen Kennedy could handle Star Wars the same way as Feige. What do Power Rangers need to be succesful? A strong leadership. Somebody who says: "This is Power Rangers, we are not like the rest of the superheroes movies/series". I like the Japanese are taking risks, like Kyuranger with a core team of 9 Rangers plus Extra Rangers(excessive, I know, but it could generate an interesting adaptation, better than the original Kyuranger) or Patranger vs Lupinrager (two MC teams with opposite motifs, it's risky, so it could lead to a great series). That's my opinion.
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Post by crossranger on Feb 3, 2018 12:20:17 GMT -5
Power Ranger NEVER gonna be bought back by Disney because: 1) they did bought it before, and they never figure out how to work with it. It's common knowledge that Doug Sloan was the one who convinced the Powers That Be from Disney, to make a new series after Wild Force, moving the entire production to New Zealand. They bought PR, (and Wild Force was in pre-production) after they bought an entire package from Saban Entertainment and Fox Family. THEY DIDN'T WANT POWER RANGERS. They just found it in the things they bought (in some way) 2) they have Marvel, so they have already a (very succesful) superheroe franchise and a boys' oriented IP, and products to sell them, so why they gonna need Power Rangers? And, 3) Disney doesn't like to share. Power Rangers are shared with Toei, and every single decision have to be agreed with their Japanese partners, something Disney are not willing to do. PR it's always an adaptation from Super Sentai. Everything has to be first, made by Japanese and for the Japanese (audiences), and later adapted to America and the rest of the world. That's why I believe DIsney bought 20th Century Fox. They want the X-Men and Fantastic Four back, sure, and other succesful IP: Avatar, the Simpsons, the original Star Wars footage (shared with Lucasfilm), etc. DISNEY WANT EVERYTHING UNDER ITS CONTROL. It's more than a simple urban legend, than the whole debacle of the X-Men and 4F from the comics (and the push and rising of the Inhumans, in comics an TV), was made for the lack of control of the IP's because they were in Fox's hands. So, when Fox wanted to be out of the entertainment business (only to be focused in Sports and News), Disney took advantage of this, so is win-win for both parts. In my opinion, this is bad. Disney is becoming more and more an entertainment monopoly. Marvel, Star Wars, Fox, besides beloved franchises from Disney. I don't have problem with Marvel, they have an strong "leader" in Kevin Feige. He knows how to steer the wheel of the franchise. But after the whole controversy of the Last Jedi, the rumors about the directors' firing, and the whole bad things about the Han Solo movies, I don't believe Kathleen Kennedy could handle Star Wars the same way as Feige. What do Power Rangers need to be succesful? A strong leadership. Somebody who says: "This is Power Rangers, we are not like the rest of the superheroes movies/series". I like the Japanese are taking risks, like Kyuranger with a core team of 9 Rangers plus Extra Rangers(excessive, I know, but it could generate an interesting adaptation, better than the original Kyuranger) or Patranger vs Lupinrager (two MC teams with opposite motifs, it's risky, so it could lead to a great series). That's my opinion.
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Post by Venusaur on Feb 3, 2018 13:37:49 GMT -5
Anyone wanting Disney to buy back Power Rangers is an idiot.
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Post by fuferthought on Feb 4, 2018 23:28:04 GMT -5
The only reason I would say Yes to buying it back is because. Disney is different now. They bought FOX!!! Its new money floating around there now. If they were to buy PR I would hope they would scrap the whole chopping footage concept. Film their own material from beginning to end. That to me is the ONLY way it has a shot in the dark. Im sure the Disney wigs were laughing at the horrible splicing. Get the old uniforms sentai already used that we havent and film original material. Change the age gap. 4-12 and get better writers. I wouldnt mind if WB bought it. I would love to see it on the CW. I swear to Christ, these are about the most unrealistic ideas I've ever seen anyone come up with. I said Only reason I would say yes and its a shot in the dark.... thats pretty much says I know its unrealistic
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Post by xaviersaintcloud on Feb 5, 2018 1:24:13 GMT -5
^I just still can't believe you thought them up in the first place.
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