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Post by cd on Sept 17, 2017 14:32:55 GMT -5
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Post by bagofmagicfood on Jan 17, 2018 23:05:21 GMT -5
SirStack has come back with "The Wild Wipeout"! Light on Sentai footage, yes, but you also get an updated opening sequence. I went ahead and watched all of VR Troopers and its source shows late last year, so now I'm all ready to see how many odd footage uses I did or didn't catch, after we get through Ninja Storm. I wonder if there ever was a Metal-Heroes-free episode, considering that even the Christmas episode still had to use the establishing shots of the Kirihara Concern and the Fushigi Palace.
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Post by jitterdoomer on Mar 6, 2018 19:01:40 GMT -5
VR Troopers is now in the site along with Dino Thunder coming soon. Are you going to cover Season 2? Shaider has a lot of unmorphed villains like Arachnobot, Despera, and The Girls Army.
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Post by bagofmagicfood on Mar 25, 2018 1:25:12 GMT -5
Indeed, both Virtual Reality Troopers and Power Rangers Dino Thunder have begun! I don't see why the VR Troopers analysis wouldn't continue into season 2. I take it you mean that by recreating the set and costumes of Fuuma, they did like Masked Rider (which started the same season) and had the villains be considered to have the American actors' faces and hoped you wouldn't notice their faces in action scenes, and otherwise Shaider inserts were only necessary for monsters-of-the-day and Kubilai's speech (since it couldn't have been worth building Oraclon's face mechanisms or any rubber-suits beyond what was permanently attached to the wall for continuity's sake). Now I wonder if Morphylogeny would list Shaider's episode numbers below or above the others; I would have thought to go Shaider, then Spielban, and finally Metalder for the order in which they were created, but SirStack may be thinking of when they were licensed by Saban, and so Metalder and Spielban are sharing a line for entering adaptation simultaneously. I'd also still like someone to catch me up on how SirStack discovered the "intended" episode order for all these shows, since seemingly everybody else just refers to the broadcast premiere order. It was fun to confirm things I had suspected like how they spliced the first and last duels with Coolgin together, but I also learned things that escaped my attention, like the ways Spielban was passed off as Metalder in the Grand Nasca, or that the visor views were remakes of Spielban's and one of his enemy's (I guess so if they need footage of Ryan seeing JB/Kaitlin, it's plausibly there already?). Additionally we learned some of the smaller no-nos from the source like showing real tanks or Skugs' heads exploding. And since it'd been a while since I'd started watching Metalder, I had come to think that Grimlord firing a video screen across the crowd or gaining red glows on his eyes and energy down to his fist at the end of an episode were additions by Saban, but nope; God Neros really did have all that long before Lord Zedd! I think there's an actual mistake in labeling MechaShocker's first scene as Spielban #16 instead of #03, though. And did Woody really get replaced by Jeb in the credits after just two episodes? I remember it being closer to five on Netflix, but that could just be the alternate episode order again. "Metal-Heroes-free" seems more relevant now that I'm watching Big Bad Beetleborgs, which could afford to use minimal B-Fighter footage when it had all the costumes available to stage its own more kid-friendly shenanigans. They even made their own computer-generated versions of the mechs, but generally it's still the original model footage that does all the fighting, although it'd be interesting to try to describe all the ways the action gets inserted into a virtual comic book page.
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Post by jitterdoomer on Apr 1, 2018 9:21:24 GMT -5
Yes, Grimlord fuses God Neros, Queen Pandora, and Emperor Kubilai all in one. What is wrong with showing real tanks in VR? They can be seen in the distance shots.
Oh and BTW, UPSKIRT SHOTS FOR A SABAN SHOW??? Oh my goodness, they just got out of the radar! Anyways, Beetleborgs had a cross over with Janperson and Blue Swat. Janperson, Gun Gibson, Bill Goldy, and Mademoiselle Q (Blue Swat) were the only non-adapted characters to appear in that episode. Jisp from Blue Swat appeared on Borgslayer's suit especially in the US footage along with Bill Goldy and Mademoiselle Q.
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Post by april91 on Sept 11, 2018 10:22:57 GMT -5
I'm curious for Space Patrol Delta and Mystic Force soon since Mystic Force got 32.
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Post by bagofmagicfood on Sept 23, 2018 5:24:21 GMT -5
I remember on the old Rangercrew forum, someone got a kick out of imagining what footage analysis of "Lost & Found in Translation" would look like, which should be coming soon. I imagine that since the entire episode is considered "usable," SirStack will have to note absolutely every missing scene, along with noting when scenes play on TV (and what's probably on the TV when it gets covered up). I recall one surprise I had from seeing a side-by-side video comparison was at how Power Rangers' dub got to use Abaranger's original soundtrack, but the music tracks weren't synchronized to the same moments due to having to cut some shots or insert new ones of the U.S. Rangers reacting. Shaider has a lot of unmorphed villains like Arachnobot, Despera, and The Girls Army. I started to wonder what the plan was for human-faced villains from Spielban myself. Why was it worth having Knighttime and Desponda appear on the American sets for just one episode each, and why was it necessary for Desponda to survive her one episode that killed her counterpart? I wondered if when VR Troopers was expected to continue into the spring of 1996, the idea was to have a big conflict between villains that would pare down their numbers to better set up season 3, though I'm not sure if that would necessitate uncovering Grimlord's identity already. I don't know if Emperor Guillotine did enough that would be worth casting an American version for too, but at least the Troopers would have Galileo around to help out with whatever happened! They even made their own computer-generated versions of the mechs, but generally it's still the original model footage that does all the fighting, I spoke too soon, as I believe it was "Phantom of Hillhurst" where they got bold enough to have their CGI Beet Machines battle in Charterville proper. An interesting thing I caught in Beetleborgs Metallix was where a few episodes had a scene transition that failed to completely cover the previous scene for a few seconds, and so you could see that leftover action on the very left and right edges of the screen--I've heard this could happen because old television sets typically cut off a bit of the edges in what was called "overscan" anyway, so nobody really noticed until we started watching these shows pillarboxed on widescreen monitors. I found this interesting after a shot of Triplesaurus Rex roaring that was suddenly played in reverse in order to last longer and avoid a cut to Nukus before he was to be on the scene: By carefully comparing what the edges looked like, I determined that they just kept on reversing through the prior shots! What is wrong with showing real tanks in VR? They can be seen in the distance shots. And they put a head explosion into an official music video!
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Post by bagofmagicfood on Oct 9, 2018 3:52:23 GMT -5
Oh, right, the Start-and-End format makes sense. Funny that they'd stretch the picture into a widescreen TV now that we know Disney would fail to switch to filming Power Rangers in widescreen when Super Sentai did.
So now we've seen the first piece of Power Rangers stock footage used in VR Troopers, but does VR Troopers ever recycle its own footage besides transformation sequences? Any of its building exteriors? Perhaps a shot of all three Troopers conversing in-suit before splitting up?
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Post by AlwaysARanger85 on Oct 9, 2018 4:42:01 GMT -5
Well with how limited of source footage vr had. I would believe they recycled a lot of footage. No different then power Rangers did in those early days.
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Post by bagofmagicfood on Jan 18, 2019 22:37:26 GMT -5
SirStack is back at it, now with a Ko-Fi account. So "Digging for Fire" was the episode where they made it look as if Metalder and Spielban were exploring the same building, and I noticed when they just left in the pre-Kesshou'd Spielban, but I didn't know they left in Helen Lady!
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Post by april91 on Jan 22, 2019 11:19:47 GMT -5
I'm getting the source shows through Shout Factory. I have MMPR II , Zeo and Turbo so far. So what I am wondering is if why with the US doing 50 a year would they mix footage from 3 episodes? MXC used to do it.
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Post by AlwaysARanger85 on Jan 22, 2019 12:33:43 GMT -5
There is variety of reasons one us episode would have multi sentai episodes footage used.
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Post by april91 on Jan 22, 2019 12:55:12 GMT -5
How do they cut footage to use it for an episode of Power Rangers when they use a source episode?
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Post by AlwaysARanger85 on Jan 22, 2019 14:58:59 GMT -5
Well I would figure toei sends them the raw footage of each series then the producers and editors go through that footage. First cut out all non morph ranger stuff, cut out any to graphic parts, or to overtly Japanese stuff that wouldn't work. Then they take remaining footage and firm story of episode around that or even share similar story to sentai as that does happen. So then they write in us stuff. Which is where we got us story exclusive stuff in our hero base and hang out spots and stuff with rangers, any original villain stuff and then un morph and morph fight stuff.
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Post by bagofmagicfood on Jan 24, 2019 2:59:17 GMT -5
And if you wondered where Colonel Icebot was in "The Great Brain Robbery," he was the brain in the source show.
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