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Post by xman on Oct 2, 2017 15:37:44 GMT -5
Not sure what to think about this season, overall. I mean, it's still the exact same thing as it was in Samurai's regular season. Just the inclusion of Serrator and Lauren. But that's it. I do enjoy the reunion of Bulk and Skull in the final episode, "Samurai Forever". And I guess Bulk and Spike's comedic schtick were okay. But, other than that. Samurai and Super Samurai really weren't all that great. It's just kind of mediocre, in my opinion. But, if you guys liked it, then I guess I can just respect everyone else's opinions. But me?! I am probably gonna have to forget about this series and move onto something else, instead. Oh and Deker and Dayu's respective story arcs weren't even that interesting to begin with. It's just that one villain arc was a lot better than the other one since we had one former Power Rangers actor returning to the franchise but as a different character and the other was just boring. But you could guess which of the two villain arcs I am obviously talking about here.
But, that's about it.
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Post by redsurge on Oct 3, 2017 10:56:10 GMT -5
I actually really enjoyed both this and Samurai. Sure, they're similar to the Sentai and the acting isn't always up to par, but the story is fun and the characters aren't actually that bad. Antonio is one of my favorite Rangers ever. Up there with Andros, T.J. and others.
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Post by AlwaysARanger85 on Oct 3, 2017 13:45:14 GMT -5
No offense to fans of samurai series. But I feel it's one of the worst or series in franchise. Acting was terrible, there was little to no creativity and Jt was a lousy producer who wanted just a copy paste show which didn't work with American take.
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Post by xman on Oct 4, 2017 22:49:01 GMT -5
No offense to fans of samurai series. But I feel it's one of the worst or series in franchise. Acting was terrible, there was little to no creativity and Jt was a lousy producer who wanted just a copy paste show which didn't work with American take. Well, at least Samurai and Super Samurai are more bearable to watch than pretty much anything from Megaforce and Super Megaforce, nowadays?! Yeah, I don't get it either. But, at least Jonathan Tzachor made the right decision of not being the show-runner/executive producer of the next Power Rangers series after Megaforce/Super Megaforce ended its' production. So, I guess in a way, him being replaced by Judd "Chip" Lynn for Dino Charge/Dino Super Charge by Saban Brands was a bold business decision on the company's part.
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Post by AlwaysARanger85 on Oct 5, 2017 6:13:12 GMT -5
Ya it's to bad jt was given reigns again when Saban came back. Just think if we had new blood or even got chip then or even folks like Doug or Jackie back. We could have probably had a more likeable season. Or at least enough creative things to make us stuff work well with what ever sentai footage was to be used. The whole total like just copy and make no real changes and actors not getting to emote enough really hurt this and megaforce seasons. At least for me with DC and steel the characters are far more enjoyable and do more then jt two series in neo Saban era.
Besides that sure there is other glaring issues with Saban new era. But that is a totally other factor. For me I really don't see why Saban take on show now compared to past has changed so much. I series spilt and stupid super labeling second half of series the pointless cockpit modes and the totally kiddy tone way lower then even early eras was. So many things that are wth.
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Post by xman on Oct 5, 2017 14:53:17 GMT -5
Yeah, that is true.
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Post by xman on Nov 3, 2017 13:31:35 GMT -5
You know what really pissed me off about Laura being introduced so very late in the game because of "sentai footage"?! We don't really get enough time spent on her being fully developed or flushed out as a recurring character in the entire series, or at least an original arc where she actually is seen in the Shiba House, on-screen being prepared in secret, training to be a Power Ranger. Or hell, why not have "Mentor Jii" or at least Jayden teach her all she needs to know about being a "Samurai Power Ranger" for a few episode before she is fully introduced as a female red ranger in the series?! And it's a problem that I have personally about Jonathan Tzachor wanting everything in Power Rangers to be like this note-for-note translation of the sentai, if there was absolutely nothing wrong with the sentai in the first place. (Shinkenger, Goseiger and Gokaiger, for example.)
I mean, at least with Gaoranger being adapted into Wild Force, there were a lot of things that were in need of improvements in order to be adapted into the west. But still, at the very least, it felt like an original TV series adaptation meant for a western audience. And I actually do admire the chemistry made by the cast of Wild Force. Plus, it actually gave that show enough air to breath to at least provide some creative ideas that would feel original for Power Rangers. But I don't really get any of that here in Samurai and Super Samurai. I get nothing but plot-for-plot, point-to-point, note-for-note "this is how it was like in the sentai, so it needs to happen here. Otherwise the little kids will be bored or confused!" I mean, who the hell even said that Power Rangers need to be more like the sentai, note-for-note in the first place?! Lost Galaxy didn't need to be anyhting like Gingaman, plot-for-plot, or note-for-note, or even Time Force, regardless of there being some similarities to that of Timeranger, plot-wise. I mean, I didn't ask for Power Rangers to be more like the sentai, note-for-note. I just wanted it to be more of an adaptation of the sentai and still give us some original ideas that will give the show its' own creative identity. Not some generic copying-and-pasting from a Japanese TV series with Caucasian characters blindly thinking they have Japanese ancestry in their blood without even explaining how they are even connected to Japanese ancestry. Thankfully, 3 Ninjas already made it clear that the Douglas Brothers; Rocky, Colt and Tum-Tum are half-Japanese in the movie, but hey. At least they are aware of it. Not because of the fact that their grandfather is a ninja warrior.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2017 14:03:26 GMT -5
I'm biased towards the sentai. Always will be and I thought this take (both regular and super) were atrocious. Tzachor just copied and pasted mostly everything from Shinkenger, even the freaking dialogue. Let's not forget "I am the red ranger, I must not fail!"
Bulk and Spike were unnecessary, Ji can go jump in a fire for being a total ass. The morph, what the heck? Why was it so long? Why did we get ninja masks?
The acting wasn't great, especially with Kevin, Jayden, Mia and Emily. The girls really irritated me in Samurai mainly because of their voices and Kevin overacted too much. Jayden was bleh. Mike and Antonio and Lauren were the only decent thing in it.
Also let's not bring up Ricardo Medina.
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Post by AlwaysARanger85 on Nov 6, 2017 14:22:12 GMT -5
There was so many things wring with jt andsamurai. Hell we thought things where bad while it was airing. After those articles from former story editor guy came out we can clearly see the wrong way to adapt a series.
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Post by xman on Nov 10, 2017 16:53:27 GMT -5
Why did we get ninja masks? Actually, I think in the history of samurais, they would usually wear kabuki masks to conceal their identies, especially into battle. But yeah, the morphing sequence is too damn long. Now for the acting, I would say Jayden, Kevin, and Mentor Jii are the worst because they literally werenot bringing their "A" game in this season and in regular Samurai. Antonio was mediocre, in my opinion. But Emily and Mia?! "Meh!" Now Mike and Lauren....obviously, the best ones. Which brings us to Bulk and Spike, and well...I actually prefer their comedic schtick over anything else dealing with our "heroes" in this season, except for the episode, "Stroke of Fate" because that was written by Amit Bauhmik. Which leaves us with Rick Medina, and yeah. It's really sad with what became of him after Samurai and Super Samurai, but at least with his portrayal of Deker, he is being taken more seriously as a main threat than Master Xandred or any of the villains from Megaforce/Super Megaforce, except for Vrak. But yeah, Jonathan Tzachor is an idiot.
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Post by AlwaysARanger85 on Nov 10, 2017 18:22:17 GMT -5
for me with the long morphs we some times get. I rather insta morphs.
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Post by digificwriter on Mar 9, 2018 12:01:15 GMT -5
There was a time not so long ago when I would've agreed with people opinions on all aspects of Kevin's characterization and certain aspects of Mia's characterization, but I'm currently doing a Samurai rewatch and am finding my earlier viewpoints on both characters shifting the further into the season I get (I'm currently on The Rescue), which is contributing to a new appreciation for the season's overall cast of characters.
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Post by xman on Oct 2, 2021 22:42:34 GMT -5
So, since this year marks the "10th anniversary" of the series' premiere on cable TV back in 2011, I have but one question. Can Power Rangers Samurai and Super Samurai ever be fixed in adaptation whether it's in the form of a big-budgeted movie trilogy or a comic book series?
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Post by AlwaysARanger85 on Oct 3, 2021 8:02:28 GMT -5
With yhe right story and acting I think it could be. As that was the show big issued the terrible or limited acting of the actors and the crappy copy paste writing of the series.
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Post by xman on Oct 3, 2021 10:06:44 GMT -5
With the right story and acting, I think it could be. As that was the show's biggest issue, the terrible or limited acting of the actors and the crappy "copy-paste" writing of the series. Well, if they ever do adapt Samurai/Super Samurai into a movie trilogy, of course they will fix the acting and the writing. But, there is also the controversy of the casting decision in making Jayden Shiba a white-american in the TV show, but with a Japanese last name without any explanation. Not that he was that interesting in the show considering that Alex Hartman barely had any acting experiences in his resume. What's even weirder when you think about it, is that both Samurai and Megaforce are literally the last two Power Rangers shows to have a white male lead as the Red Ranger. After that, it's like, "NO MORE WHITE MALE LEADS AS THE RED RANGERS!! Make the cast more diverse, or we're cancelling your show!!!"
So, my guess is that the movie trilogy will address the controversy, but they are likely to cast an Asian actor to play the red ranger, instead in order to mast the movie cast more diversed. Now, for Lauren, well...that's going to be a problem. But, if Boom! Studios decide to adapt Samurai and Super Samurai into a comic book series, then it's likely they will make Lauren into the acting team leader, make her more of third-dimensional character and Jayden could have like limited appearances in the main comic book. Maybe have his own spin-off comic book series doing his own side quests and everybody else will likely have more personalities than their TV show counterparts did since it's not gonna be a direct copy-and-pasting of the Sentai, note-for-note. And the writers could easily make up their own villains and explore more with the established villains like Dekker, Dayu and Serrator in adaptation. That's all I could say about that.
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